KIFFIN TO USC!
We've heard from 2 sources that Lane Kiffin will be USC's next football coach.
UPDATED: Announcement expected shortly.
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LOL!
I sure hope so. He's awful. Easy to hate him....also, CRN is already 1-0 against him.
Please your losing cred by the minute!
Lane Kiffin is a prick. Perfect choice by Garrett. He is screwing us on his way out of town.
That's the most gruesome thing I've ever read... Please, stop with the jokes!
Please tell me we get Daddy Monte too. He is an actual talent, rather than a blow-hard.
Will Chow work for Lane The Brat? If so, then I think I can actually live with this.
Scott if this holds true I will give you credit where it is due, because NO ONE else is mentioning this, not on twitter, not on any respected sports sites, heck- not on any disrespected sports sites. Lane is cool with me- any chacne he'll bring Orgeron with him???
Wolf got it right this time. Espn confirmed it!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Hello Worst Case Scenario!
F-bomb!
Kiffin LOL. You have to be a douchebag to be the head FB coach at SC and Kiffin certainly satisfies that requirement. MG is the gift that keeps on giving.
And the hits just keep on coming!
Please tell me this is a freakin' joke. Tell me the pressure of Del Rio disputing Wolf's story has caused him to lose it. And the Wolf is standing at the top of a bridge about to jump off and wants to stick it to all of us before he jumps. Please tell me this is the case.
FIRE MIKE GARRETT!!!
This is a WORST CASE scenario. THE WORST!!! Actually, not the worst. Hiring Jeremy Bates as head coach would be the worst.
I'm in shock. Need to sit down...
Vomit. Needles in my eyes. The hot chick I made out with last night turned out to be a guy.
That's my frame of mind right about now.
Sark will chew Kiffin up and spit him out.
What a terrible hire for USC!
Wolf...you been wrong all day!!!! I can't stand this suspence, when is Garret going to get his act together and tell the Nation who he is targeting!! I personally like Kiffin and would hope he brings Monte, Orgeron...however I would think he would be more ethical and not abandon Tennessee like this after 1 year! The program was heading in the right direction! I hope your right for ONCE Wolfey!!
On my list of UCLA Hero's, I think Mike Garrett falls right between John Wooden and Ben Howland.
Kiffin already ran out his welcome in the NFL in 1 year (although, I will give you that Al David is nuts) and then in the SEC after 1 year (after several infractions in his first few months), now he runs back to the University of Sanctions Coming. Its a good thing his daddy is still helping him out. "Dad, what's a 4-3 again?"
He just went from a school with 100,000 die hard season ticket holders to the largest Bandwagon in America.
I wish the Trojans the best of luck keeping up with UCLA over the next decade. You're going to need it.
According to ESPN he is bringing daddy and Ed Ogeron
awesome! one of only a few coaches to lose to UCLA this year. And did you see that bowl game of theirs? Great hire!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4820737
This is a great hire! Kiffin is a relentless recruiter, is bringing Monte and Ed with him...definately keeps things w/in the 'SC family...this is way bettter than Mooch in my opinion, though Gruden would have been sick
WTF is going on here?! ANYONE but this li'l punk!!! PLEASE!!!
this is awesome!!! Kiffin is a hell of a coach. He's a cocky punk, but he's a hell of a coach. Great hire. Eddie O is back!!! Yes!!!!!!
LK news if true is very disppointing. Let's hope he brings in his dad, EO and NC.
This hire sucks.
Dr. Sample better have Mike Garrett's pink slip on his desk in the morning. We've just sabotaged our entire resurgence for Kiffin? Give me an effin' break!
Terrible. I thought the point was to bring someone in to 'clean up' the program's image. The NCAA will probably sanction USC just for hiring Kiffin.
Plus, why would anyone think Norm Chow would come work for Kiffin? Are you people fools? Isn't there mutual hatred between those two?
AD Garret should polish up his resume. If President Sample has any stones left, he'll can Garret on his way out the door and get a real executive in Heritage Hall.
I love it!
What don't people like about Lane?
He's bringing Monte and Orgeron? He has a good recruiting class.
UCLA GREATS
1. SAM GILBERT
2. SAM GILBERT
3. SAM GILBERT
4. SAM GILBERT
5. SAM GILBERT/JOHN WOODEN
JUST SAYING
Save all of these comments for next January....alot of people will be eating their words. Great hire, with Ed O coming back too. Their recruiting is what built this program to where it was a couple of years ago. I heard once that Kiffin & Chow used to drive to USC together....any chance that could happen again?
I would feel good if I was a UCLA fan too. And I am not sure that Garrett is not trying to screw us on his way out. How the hell is one of the dirtiest, scummiest coaches in the NCAA going to get the NCAA investigators off our asses?
This is going to end poorly.
Wow! Does Lane have pictures of somebody? Coming off his 13-9 BRILLIANT offensive game plan vs UCLA, he gets paid $1.5 mill by Al Davis. Gets fired 18 months later and then Tennessee gives him $2.5 million a year for 5, agrees to pay Monte $1.2 mill as DC, Orgeron $900K as Chief Recruiter and now big bucks by Mr. Garrett. Got beat AT HOME by mediocre Bruins (goal-line stand after 4 runs into middle are stopped) and ends season getting totally smoked by V-Tech of average ACC after barely beating Kentucky and Vandy. And the NCAA is already on his ass! Geez....Oh My...look at it this way, Both Ricky N. and Lane K. both have 9 Lives.....should be great games, great hate and maybe both Troy and Westwood will go on Probation at the SAME TIME!!!!!!
Who will be the OC? I believe LK didn't get along well with NC.
im so happy that guy like forest gump said "stupid is as stupid does".. YOU GUYS ARE DONE HES ANOTHER SCUMBAGG!!!!!!
HERE IS MY PREDICTION FOR 2010 SUC WILL BE ON PROBATION AGAIN BY 2013
LANE KIFFIN WHAT A JOKE
I will never support Lane Kiffin. Possibly the worst human being alive. Anyone who runs in usc circles, know how big of a douche Kiffin is. We need to come together and take a stand against this hire. WTF is MG thinking?
I recall being happy like a lot of other Trojan fans when Kiffin bolted to the NFL. Now, he has returned. This is a short-sighted hire to shore up the recruiting class. The long-term ramifications could be awful. Kiffin already racked up a string of secondary violations at UT within the first few months of being hired. How long before Daddy Kiffin retires, and Coach O wants to be a head coach again? I hope I am proven wrong, but today could be a day that USC fans do not remember fondly.
Fight On!! ... "Talk Sh*t Like Lane Kiffin?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_Kiffin
"Prior to joining the USC coaching staff, Kiffin worked as a circus clown for Ringling Brothers."
The news was broken in the middle of the Lakers game about 10 minutes ago.
Yes, Lane, Ed O, Monte, etal in the fold.
And with NC's daughter a student at USC, gee, free tuition could be just around the corner.
Yes, the NCAA will have its say, but it does tell you much about how everyone of them really wants to be back in Southern California, and with THE University of Southern California.
Does Lane have pictures of everybody?! Following his brilliant game plan and playcalling in 13-9, he gets multi-million dollar gig in Oakland...gets fired and is rewarded with another multi-million dollar gig in Tennessee and gets his Dad a $1.2 million buck DC deal and Orgeron a $900K deal in Knoxville. Loses to mediocre Bruins at home on goal-line stand where he ran ball up the middle at Brian Price 4 straight times, then barely beat Kentucky and Vandy to get a bowl bid and gets totally whupped by VA-Tech in the Fried Chicken Bowl.....Geez, Lane vs Ricky.....duelling NCAA violations, lot of hate, lot of verbiage.....WOW! IT IS GOOD TO BE LANE KIFFIN!!!!!
Ugh. Hiring a head coach who was actually ON THE STAFF when Bush was supposedly breaking the rules is not going to help with the investigations. Add in that Kiffin is the opposite of squeaky-clean, and I think that Garrett just guaranteed us heavy sanctions.
I'm kind of excited about this hire. He comes with some swagger and some good assistants. He can recruit. I'd prefer Harbaugh but think this is a better hire than either Rilley or Del Rio.
Sorry for being an A-hole...didn't think first one was submitted...LOL
Now that Carroll is gone.. we need someone to come in to hold on to those bandwagon, thuggish Raider type fans at the coliseum. It's too bad we are totally gonna suck and get hit with sanctions this coming year. There's no light at the end of the tunnel as we'll have to give up our 1.5 national titles and bush's heisman will have to be given to the rightful owner, vince young, who owned us that chilly night at the Rose Bowl.
You are all morons.
1. Great Recruiter
2. Brings great coaches with him
3. College guy not an NFL guy
4. Who cares if hes a prick! I don't want some nice friendly guy running my team. Maybe thats why we lost crap games too Stanford or ucla. He won't take teams lightly and will have no problem pouring on the offense when we are up. Its time for someone like this. This is a great hire.
5. The people whining are all the people who prob. became fans in the last 8 years. Shut up and live with it. And the punks like trojan4evermike please don't come on again, or show up to any games when we are dominating until you apologize you piece of trash!
So long as Coach O and Daddy are coming...you can have Wee Man coach USC.
And right away, Eddie "O" starts walking in to living rooms across the nation, showing his real tat on his chest "TRAVELER"... Fight On!... God, Eddie O is coming back to LA... oh crap, so is Lane... oh well, it will be interesting. FIGHT ON!
I like the hire as well. Dad and Coach O are HUGE!!!
Great hire. Next to Urban Meyer, he is the best recruiter in college football. Monte Kiffin is a defensive genius and trailblazer and Ed O is a f*cking animal. Great hire.
We are going to get BOMBED by the NCAA some February now. Lane The Brat's act at Tennessee is just going to get us in deeper and the fact that we are hiring a guy who actually was involved with Bush is just another brick on the pile.
This is such a desperate hire, IMO. Either that or Garrett is trying to bury us before he "retires".
your all going to pump gas the rest of your lives
The Donkey is deliriously happy that Coach O is coming back and Monte is joining them.
Fight On!
does this mean brennan carroll stays as well? lane is a dick but hard to argue with the brain trust.
irish and bruin asskicking to resume until further notice.
As good as it was going to get. If Kiffin can keep Pat Ruel, the coaching staff will be better in total.
If Kiffin is calling the plays, it will be bad in the end. He is not a competent play-caller at all. He can talk crap and act the fool, though, so he can do his song-and-dance all he wants if he lets the adults do the actual work.
On Friday I posted that no matter whom our new coach would be that he would still be better than Neuheisel. I now stand corrected.
Okay, now that the shock is wearing out, it's time to work on all of the positives. I see a lot. We have an aggressive recruiting staff. Let's provide support for out new coaches and kick a$$. Let's go after our original commits and then Friday after the black out period let's go after the schools who contacted our recruits. We have a better roster than the Vols so beating fUCLA should be routine.
sorry i'm late guys, little problem down at the candy factory today...
so you guys hired Andy Dufrense from the Shawshank Redemption? oh so sugar sweeeet hire!
watch out for the Sisters Andy!
hey Southern Cal chumps, why don't you go collect Andy some rocks from the yard. WOO-HOO-HOO!!!
Wow. That's it? Kiffin? What a great choice for a program facing sanctions - Captain Kangaroo.
Someone has lost their mind at HH.
Kiffin?
The guy already has 5 violations at Tenn.
Is this some kind of in your face hire to the NCAA?
How can this guy be a qualified hire at SC?
He sucked with the Raiders, he has been at Tenn for less than a year.
This is not going to end well.
Maltbaa..........
your? all going to pum gas. classic
Great Hire.
The guy can recruit. Huge credit for bringing the national championship players to USC. The Guy is relentless with recruiting and kids respond well to his cocky persona. Bringing Monte Kiffin along with the Tampa 2 defense that turned Tennessee into a strong competitor in the SEC. Note: They almost beat Alabama and Florida with the lack of talent compared to the other schools.
Ed Ogeron & Monte Kiffin will turn the defense back to where it once was.
If Kiffin can convince Chow to come back, then I see many more championships for USC in the future.
Can you imagine what Chow could do with Barkley? Heisman trophy in the future for sure. Also, Marc Tyler is going to be a huge asset for USC next year. Can't wait to see everything fall into place next year.
Fight on!!!!!
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
OMG!! i just realized new coach Andy Defrense's old man Monte is a spittin' image of old Brooks Hatlen!!
he must've carved in the wall at the Vols coaches room "Brooks was here" WOO-HOO-HOO!!!
The King is Dead!...Long Live the King!
INSPIRED CHOICE!!! Finally we have a coach that we can all believe in, someone who will run a squeaky clean program and who doesn't hop around from job to job. If this was MG's choice, he done real good!!!
KIFFIN takes us to the Mountain Top - what could go wrong w/ this pick. LOVE IT!!
I like that Coach O. is coming home, but I am really worried about Lane Kiffen and his propensity for NCAA violations, albeit of the secondary nature. I don't know about this hire...if Kiffen does something unscrupulous, the NCAA is going to throw the book at us.
Surely, we could do better? Or is this another placeholder job, like Kevin O'Neill.
Yo Chad, Pat Ruel? You goof, ever heard of Ed Orgeron?
i am disappointed that petersen will not be the coach; but maybe he said no and usc had to move fast. kiffin has his baggage, but can certainly recruit so this year's class will likely turn out better than expected. this may work out, or it may be a dumpster fire. time will tell.
loved the pumping gas comment too
Norm Chow is coming...Orgeron is working the phones already apparently.
NORM CHOW IS COMING HOME... OH MY GOD... What has Kiff pulled off! TAKE THAT FUCLA! Fight On!
According to godaddy.com, firelanekiffin.com is already taken. firemikegarrett.com is also not available.
No one has yet registered hirelanekiffin.com . . . I wonder why?
OMG! Chow is back! Chow is back! Coach O, too. Monte Kiffin defense. Hallelujah!
Confirm the Norm Chow news? If true, this would be the silver lining, so as long as he call the plays.
NORM CHOW IS COMING...NORM CHOW IS COMING...MG IS GOD....WOO THE BEST STAFF EVER ASSEMBLED....CONFIRMED BY ESPN...UNBELIEVEABLE@!!!!!!!!!!!BEAT WOLF TO IT
Seriously? Where is the Chow info posted?????
MB7 - Ed Orgeron is defensive line coach, Pat Ruel is offensive line coach. Some of us understand those are different sides of the ball.
You all do realize you just brought a man with 5 NCAA violations in the past 12 months into your home, right?
You can have 'em all.
Shelley Smith reported the Chow rumor on ESPN NEWS
Wow what a staff! I'm excited now!
Thanks Pete. Thanks Mike Garrett. USC is now a national embarrassment.
The band is back together! Who says Pete left nothing behind? Garrett lucked out again!
I thought Wolf said Kiffin and Chow hated each other.
Guess Wolf was wrong again.
Kiffin, Kiffin, Orgeron .... not bad.
Add Chow and it's very good.
Fighton - When has Wolf been right?
The Donkey believes Garrett will be gone soon. The Donkey says kudos to Haden and Rosky. Great job!
The Donkey goes out of character for a bit:
ALL THE BRUINS HANGING OUT ON THIS BOARD CAN KISS MY FURRY DERRIERE!
WE GOT LANE AND MONTE KIFFIN, ED ORGERON, AND NORM CHOW. HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES?!?!?!?!?
ESPN reporting USC has reached a deal with Chow to become the OC on Kiffins staff
I don't think Chow is coming...doesn't he have bad blood with Kiffen. According to Petros, Carroll tried to demote Chow to allow Kiffen play calling duties.
Don't think he's coming.
Yes, I think this might have been Pete's advise.
kconway says to the Donkey...keep bringing it on...i love it!!!
Heeeeeee's Back Norm is going to be SC Offensive coordinator.
Go back in your holes sorry ass bruins
So are the Bruin fans still laughing?
Clearly this is risky given the possibility of sanctions in the coming weeks/months because the university will be under a bigger microscope now that LK has been hired.
But I like the selection - and even more so with the former nucleus of LK, EO, and maybe NC, are in place.
LK & EO can recruit like muthers and the recruits will appreciate their swagger, not to mention the added benefit of a staff with NFL ties.
If the recruiting and the staff materialize, the big question will be whether LK can stay clean. Let's hope he's matured and gained some humility.
IS THIS TRUE?!!! Norm Chow is back? Inside UCLA man Jon Gold just put up on his site: "Just tried Norm Chow twice and his mailbox is full, just got off the phone with Rick Neuheisel, he says he doesn't know anything yet and is calling me back." If this is true, we just got into the preseason top 10. THIS WAS MY XMAS WISH: Ed O and Norm Chow back at USC. There is a Santa Claus. And his name is Mike Garrett (sorry Mike for bashing you so badly these couple of days - my bad.)
Chow's Back
The Donkey Knows All and is content!
Fuck all the Ruin troll on this blog!
Interesting, all the new posters coming out of the westWOODwork to bash this news.
I for one am thrilled that Lane, Monte and O are headed back. If Chow were also in the mix I would really feel excited.
I think this might stop the recruiting blood and right the ship in the nick of time.
The winning tradition is about to continue imho and I am very pleased that most of the other names batted about did not pan out, especially Edwards,Mooch,Riley,Fisher or DelRio. Yes, I was wishing for Chris Petersen and much of his staff to get their shot, same with Wittingham, but Kiffin is just fine with me. I'm also glad that this happened very fast!
Fight On
AHAHAHAHA!! Chow coming back, combined with Monte as DC, Holy crap, what a coup! Gutless little Ruins!
Let me understand this....we got Norm Chow?
What happened? Did Rick Neuheisel call another time out?
Norm "effing" Chow
Monte "K-Money"
And the Big "O"!!!!!!
Time to bring Prater, Baxter, Powell, Morgan and Woods home.
Classic - SC again throws it down FUCLA's throat!!
Still not thrill about the hire, but the new assistant coaches provides a glimpse of hope. Let the games begin.
FIGHT ON!!!!
This is the best day ever!
I couldn't care less about Lane's song and dance because we now have the best offensive mind in NCAA history, one of the 3 best defensive minds in FOOTBALL history, and the best recruiter in NCAA history.
I could not have come up with a better scenario, I think.
I would take these 4 over Petey and His Flunkies any day.
I sleep with a smile on my face tonight.
The Donkey wonders what happened to the bucking Fruins trolling the board.
The Donkey asks if it's hard to type with your stubby tail hidden between your legs?
Kiffin...Kiffin...Chow...Orgeron? Nice.
Great hire. Most of these posts are from kids who know nothing. I see a BCS championship next year. Chow and Ogeron had a lot to do with USCs last two and it takes Kiff to bring them both back. Carroll leaving is also great timing Since his magic is gone and that was obvious in losses to wash and Stanford. Kiff and Ed will bring back the great recruits and that alone is more important than who is head coach. After USC beat okla to win championship they gave Ed more credit than Pete and the experts gave Norm more credit than Pete and that is why Pete ran them out. It was an ego issue. Now the real gang is back. Great news!
Will any recruits from Tennessee follow Lane Kiffin to USC?
Notice that all the gloating Bruins went scurrying when the Chow news broke? They are freaking out! We just saved our recuiting class, put together a great staff and pissed off Neuheisel in one fell swoop! What a night...
The Don Key is King!
I think Slick Rick should get that helicopter ready!
I don't understand how any USC supporter can be upset with the Lane Kiffin hiring. Do any of you remember the last time we were in the BCS Championships? 2004 & 2005.
Is it a coincidence that in both of those seasons Lane Kiffin was our passing game coordinator (2004) and Offensive Coordinator (2005)? I don't think so. The man knows football.
The fact that he is bringing his dad, Monte Kiffin, with him is huge. Anybody that knows football will tell you that Monte is one of the best, if not THE BEST, defensive coordinator in the history of the NFL. The man knows defense!
If you're a bandwagon USC fan, then you probably don't know who Ed Orgeron is. He is probably the best recruiter USC has ever had. Sure he's recruited some big names and maybe those athletes have put USC in a bad spot now, but you can't blame Orgeron for that. I'm sure everyone was jumping up and down, high-fiving everyone and their moms in the stands, when Bush was running wild through every defense he faced. The fact of the matter is Bush screwed us, not Garrett, not Carroll, not Kiffin, not anyone but Bush!
I am ecstatic with the news. Lane, Monte, Orgeron, Chow. The season cannot start soon enough for me!
Fight On Trojans!
Icing on the cake-Chow leaving FUCLA and Nehwiesal. Awesome!
What about the hostesses and sanctions?
This is actually very good news.
MG was SERIOUSLY considering candidates that had NEVER coached in CFB, and NEVER recruited.
I don't know how all this future NCAA compliance stuff is going to shake out, but let's pray USC's AD and compliance department are genuinely committed to patroling the football (and BB) programs. It should have happened before...when USC hired a guy who'd never coached college football, ran a loose ship, loaded with future NFL stars, in an evnvironment full of corrupting influences. Better late than never!
Someone should post a suicide prevention hotline for all the Pestwood bear fluffers who have been stinking up this place of late. But why bRuin an opportunity to make this world a better place?
Pine on little guppies as we continue to fight on!
Kiff drove me crazy at times as a play caller but as a coach and recruiter he brings energy and is the right fit all around. Just look at the whole package we now have.
Huge blow to fUCLA! Will we be able to take all the transfers and recruits Norm will bring with him? Will Lane slap the pee out of Neweasel after the game?
Did anyone notice that the last time we had an agressive D was when Ed was coaching at Usc? Think about it. Taylor Mays didn't blitz all year. We had great players the last few years but poor strategy on D this is great news
does this mean brennan carroll stays as well? lane is a dick but hard to argue with the brain trust.
irish and bruin asskicking to resume until further notice.
Unbelievably stupid pick...I thought they had dodged the Del Rio fiasco, and they go crazy. It's as stupid as the self imposed basketball disaster. I'm embarrassed to be a Trojan. This hurts.... At least they got his dad.... FIRE GARRETT!!!
Calm down, girls. Despite all the misinformation, NORM CHOW IS STILL UCLA'S OC.
You guys truly do smack of desperation. Talk about trying to put lipstick on a pig.
All your friends in beautiful Westwood are very happy with your new hire. He's perfect for SC. Just ask the student body at UT.
Can't believe what Mark May is saying about all this http://twitter.com/mark_may