Saturday Morning Quarterback: South Hills eliminates Walnut from playoffs, 48-27; Bishop Amat drops from undefeated ranks, 38-25

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Saturday's result
Diamond Ranch 30, Los Altos 10 -- The Conqs clinch the second spot in the Miramonte, should be another dangerous playoff opponent.

Tonight's results
South Hills 48, Walnut 27 -- The Huskies jump out to a 41-0 lead keyed by Geoffrey Vaughns' two interceptions. The Mustangs scored 27 unanswered late.
Crespi 38, Bishop Amat 25 -- The Lancers trailed 21-3 and fought to get back in it, but they gave up too many points to claw all the way back. It's not the end of the world, they can still clinch a share of the Serra title next week with a win at home against Notre Dame, who beat Loyola 45-14.
Damien 52, Diamond Bar 3 -- The Spartans are not just winning, they're flexing their muscles and getting ready to clinch at least a share of the Sierra title.
Arroyo 57, Mountain View 7 -- The Knights actually trailed 7-0 before going on a 57-point run.
Rosemead 52, El Monte 20 -- Matt Fregoso had 370 all-purpose yards and five touchdowns. Can you say player of the week?
Rowland 42, Nogales 20 -- The Raiders only led 14-13 at half, then pulled away and clinched a playoff spot.
Gladstone 42, Bassett 6 -- The Gladiators needed this to stay in playoff contention while eliminating the Olympians at the same time.
La Puente 41, Sierra Vista 7 -- If not for their lone loss to Azusa, what would you be saying about the way the Warriors handled everyone else?
Workman 23, Duarte 0 -- The only surprise was how close the score was.
Chino Hills 14, Ayala 7 -- Just thought I would share it with you.
Glendora 28, Chino 10 -- The Tartans take care of business, can clinch a share of the Sierra and a playoff spot with a win at home against Ayala.
San Dimas 49, Northview 24 -- It's official, we can start getting ready for next week's showdown at Baldwin Park for the VVL title.
Covina 7, Pomona 2 -- Sounds like a Colts baseball score, but anyways, this probably does clinch a playoff spot.
Bonita 47, Wilson 3 -- The Bearcats take care of business to keep their playoff hopes alive.
South El Monte 28, Gabrielino 3 -- The Eagles not only clinched a playoff spot, but will play for a piece of the MVL against Arroyo next week.

202 Comments

Time for a change said:

What good is a new weight room if your team is not going to maximize it? Walnut kids not only get everthing handed to them by their parents as spoiled young adults, they do not take football serious there. Someone here was right when he said, mention Walnut football and you get laughs. They are expected to lose every year just like Mark Keppel. So to baby Blue neutered, Walnut insider and whoever else comes in here with Walnut takes...save it because you are who you are, A assembled team with no purpose to win, only to wear a uniform with no pride,hunger or backbone. Truth be told your kids will never work hard if they are pacified and given everything. There is no fight in the dogs you people raise in Walnut. Tail between their legs every year.

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

baby blue nutter:
The new weight room is very nice. They must have spent a pretty penny on the equipment. I am sure they used money from the stadium bond to pay for it. Person brought in an excellent weight training program. It is awesome. I am not sure where he got it, but when used properly you can see the results in size & strength quickly. So if Person is remember for one thing, let it be the strength training program he brought to Walnut. The problem is that these kids don't go on the volunteer work outs or don't push themselves hard enough when they get in there.

There has always been potential on the freshmen level, but they never develop. They quit for whatever reason or they stop growing. The JV QB is pretty good, but what kind of skill players will he have next year? Will the line mature enough?

Coming into the season there was one main question; could the O-line be good enough to hold their blocks for 5 seconds? Next year there are so many other questions. It's cause of this that I don't know how good Walnut will be.

As for selling the game to get the student body there, you are correct. The school and team must do a better job of getting everyone involved. I still can't believe how empty it was against Rowland.

Outsider:
You are dead on when it comes to heart. Seems to be lacking.

baby blue nutter said:

Insider,

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree until next season.

You're right...I don't know much past the Person years...but the attendance is not what it once was at most SGV schools...generation XBOX. The coaches...players...boosters...parents...and FACULTY need to help create the hype on campus and in the community.

The frosh and JV teams matter a whole lot...it sets the tone and mood for younger players....and students. I hear that a couple of solid players that did not go out this season...will be playing next season. I'm not suggesting that a 10-0 frosh team makes a 10-0 varsity team. I'm talking about creating the buzz. We may have another 6'+ WR starting on the other side of 88.

They didn't put a new weight room in for nothing...I see them putting it to good use. You got players that are already waiting to get in there and do the work..those players are going to drive others to get in there also. I see a good work ethic coming into next season.

Starting sophmores is not a strategy....players got hurt last game. They have to start them. But I will be sure to pay attention to how they play....and report back.

The freshman kids....check em out, baby.....you gotta look at the bodies....like you do a puppy dog. They'll be up there....sometime during the next season. I've got more than a few years in and around youth sports...I like to think I have a good eye for this stuff.

I don't have a strong opinion on who should be the QB next season. It's all about who is going to put in the work...not only in Spring...but Fall and Winter. Roach knows the game.......I'd like to see him put on a few pounds. If I'm the coach, I'm saying it's an open position...make your case. The two that did not play, probably have the strongest arms. The tall kid on JV...I like his size....if you're running the spread offense.....he can look over the defense and make those checks. One of them is going to get hungry. Coaches have to be in on this also.....put the work in.

When you talk about this years team compared to next year....you're probably on to something, Outsider...but, I'm not much of a critic. I can say you are going to have a different atmoshpere. I just really want to see them come out and play well on Friday...finish this season on a positive.

Oh..and I wouldn't mind changing the screen name to the navy blue nutter.

walnut outsider said:

It’s not the color of the jersey but the size of the heart that counts. I’m not an insider so I can only speak from what I see on the field. As far as I’m concerned Walnut had just as much talent at the skill positions as any local team, but did not show up in the big games. I understand that maybe West Covina and SH are better teams but the games were not that competitive, your playoff hopes are on the line and the best you can do is trail 41-0 against SH. Where is the heart? I think Walnut had enough talent to make the playoffs this year, I personally liked Walnut’s 2 DB’s especially the kid that returned punts (Lindsey ?) that kid was the team MVP halfway through the season, why couldn’t he get the ball on offense ? Hopefully next year there will be more of a “team” atmosphere. As for people not showing up for games or not trying out for the team, that’s on the coach, he has to sell the program, he has to work his A$# off, it won’t be easy, but it can be done. I’m hopeful that next year will be better, with a lot of returning players, and a decent JV team, but we will see.

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

SGV430:
you are right, by the time Person made the switch to navy blue most of the other sports had abandoned the baby blue. But it was because of a football player's letterman's jacket that caused it. So one could argue that if football wouldn't have gone navy blue, then none of this would have happened. It's not that big of deal really. I for one like the baby blue uniforms. And you have 2 choices, the Chargers throwbacks (like now) or UCLA like Borowski had.

SGV for 30 Years said:

Nice Kids: You don't think that Loyola has a few jackasses on their teams. Also remember you are comparing apples to oranges. The kids who play football at schools like Loyola go to those schools specifically to play football (and the great education). Those schools are also not limited by boundaries. Public schools(the ones that don't cheat) take kids that live in the area.

Insider: Football was one of the last sports on Walnuts' campus to go to the navy blue uniforms. Most of the other teams made the switch to navy because there weren't alot of companies that carried that baby blue. There was also something about a students navy blue lettermens jacket.


SGV430 Ouuut!


Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

Baby Blue Nutter:
Walnut's line is small and slow, as I said before a bad combination. And if they are considering starting sophomores as linemen, that's a big mistake. I haven't seen any freshmen linemen that can play at that level.

JV & Frosh levels really don't matter because they don't count. Person's frosh team from a few years ago looked great, that never panned out when they made varsity. Players get better, some move, others just quit. To say a team that is great as freshmen will be great as seniors is a stretch.

As far as the football culture, maybe you are too young to remember any coach besides OShields or Person, but trust me when I say Walnut is no longer a football school. The student body has zero faith in the squad. Why else was Walnut's sideline basically empty against Rowland? It was a home game, and it pitted the #1 & #2 teams in the CIF. Yet it was empty. Road games...nothing.

Notes:
The uniforms look fine. And uniforms don't make anyone tougher. Person came in and went to his Bosco navy blues. What you don't know it caused a big stir up on the campus. It eventually led to all of the teams going back to the school colors which is a baby blue and gold, not navy blue. Gunn, Dutton, Patricio, and Borowski all had success with baby blue uniforms, so that is just an ignorant comment.

As far as the QB goes and the future, this was Walnut's best chance to do something. The coaches all knew this too. The skill kids are going to be depleted, but they will have a few, but they won't be as good as this years skill kids. Add moving to a new league and you see that this was their best chance. The new league won't be as bad as the Baseline years, but it won't be pretty.

Oh well, that's what spring is for.

Notes said:

I think Walnut needs to go back to the dark blue and gold and let go of the powder blue S.D. Charger look uniforms. They are not taken serious and look very sissy weak in that color. Bring the dark colors back and turn the tide to agressivness. QB choice: I hear Brandon Roach has been to quite a few USC combines and has been tutored by Steve Clarkson over at Air 7. Is this Walnuts next great one in comparison to Al Gattis that will finally bring Walnut to the top of the San Antonio next year?

Walnut Outsider said:

baby blue nutter,
Nice comments on the team next year. I agree with most of what you said except for next year’s QB. The two QB's that played on Varsity this year were seniors so I haven't really seen any of the younger QB's. Do you really think that any one of the 4 QB's will be able to lead this team next year?

baby blue nutter said:

Not sure I agree with some of the analysis.

I realize we all don't film the games...or have access. But in that South Hills game...it could have easily been 14-14 at one point early.

SR's need to step up Friday night...end the season in style...and give us something to look forward to next season.

The Walnut line is not as big...but are effective. They can get worn down....some of them also play both sides. They are all JR's...and there are 2 legitimate JV lineman...maybe a third...there are also two potentials on the Frosh team. There is going to be depth and size (if everyone hits that nice new weight room) next season. Got some tough running backs.....and how about a fresh Collins at LB every down. Don't worry about QB...you'll have 4 (2 we haven't seen play this season) to choose from...assuming those 2 get their crap straightened out.

To say that Walnut has a losing attitude towards football....I say you are dead wrong. JV is 7-2...Varsity is 6-3...the frosh team is around .500....over the past 2 years....there are some kids that don't know what it is like to have a losing season...and I don't think they are going to find out anytime soon.

Not sure what to make of the football culture...hard to compare against the big 3 in the SGV.....what we have at Walnut holds up against most. Kids wear the Walnut gear with pride...

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

SGV430:
most definitely, you are on the right track. Walnut is no longer a football school. And if you have been around for 30 years, you will remember (like me) there was a time when Walnut was a football school. That whole culture of football is important really changed after Patricio left. And that isn't a knock against Borowski (the guy did make the playoffs 3 out of 4 years)or Person (who made the finals). It's more of that's when the demographics of Walnut shifted. When that happened, academics became more important that athletics.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Walnut to be successful, Person did make the finals & semi's. Walnut had a great opportunity this year to do something. The school attitude is that football is a losing sport and when they lose, it's expected. Everyone laughs at it.

Nice Kids Win Championships as well said:


SGV 30...maybe you never heard of Loyola? Might be some of the brighest and nicest student/athletes in the State and they routinely compete for Championships in multiple sports.

SGV for 30 Years said:

Insider,

I learned a long time ago that not all athletes really like to work hard. Football is a sport where you have to be willing to work hard and sacrifice. I was also told by a local coach that you have to have a few jackasses with attitude on your team. It's hard to take a bunch of nice kids and make them into something that is out of character for them. I think the better programs in the area have a football culture. I saw acouple of teams this year where they have pre-game tailgates with bbq burgers, dogs and brats, drinks (non-alcoholic of course) banners, people painting their faces and bodies, cars with players names and numbers painted on their windshields, school mascot banners everywhere you can hang a flag. One local schools' boosters feed their players pre-game and post-game meals. Now that's football culture. So do you thing Walnut has a football culture? Do you realize that they get kicked off the their practice a couple times a week field by the band? Do you think that would happen at Amat, CO, SH, or WC? So Insider, do you think I'm hitting on something that makes sense?


SGV430 Ouuuut!

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

Mounty:
You are right, when you have someone with the size of Rhodes or Coleman you need to get them the ball. But at the same time, Rhodes wasn't running hard early on and was dropping balls. And there were times when Coleman wasn't going full speed on offense. Defensively, those two worked very hard, but it seemed like they slacked off a bit on offense. So the blame has to go both ways. Coaches for not getting in their face or getting them the ball enough & the players for not doing their best.

As far as the whole track thing is concerned, the philosophy of "I only play one sport" has killed Walnut boys sports. There are plenty of kids that should be playing football, but just wrestle. Or kids that are on track that don't do anything else. When teams started to go year round, it devastated them. The coaches compete with each other as well. I have heard plenty of stories from kids about how they were told if they didn't go to winter ball don't even bother showing up for the regular season. Now that is from a kid, but who knows. I have seen plenty of talent not being used. It used to be where the coach would want you to go out for more than one sport, now they are ok with you only doing one sport. This is one place that I think the AD should step in and have a serious talk with the head coaches and tell them to encourage these kids to go out for more than one sport.

You are not an insider:
Trust me, my football is more than most around here. I don't need to talk to the kids around the campus to know what a 90 series is. I talked about this offense during the preseason. It wasn't hard to figure out what Walnut needed to do to be successful.

SGV430:
as someone said earlier, Walnut just couldn't hang with the other teams in terms of line size. They aren't big and they aren't strong, and most aren't that quick. That right there is a horrible combination for an offensive line. I know (from talking with the staff) they knew that the line was the huge question mark. In fact, I said the same thing in August. It was no surprise. There is only so much you can do as a coaching staff.

I still say Walnut's problems was 60% players, 40% staff.

SGV for 30 Years said:

You are not an insider: I think you missed my whole point. The size of the line was my whole point to "Walnut insider" as to why Walnut can't play that style of football. So I actually do completely understand the whys of changing from smashmouth to spread. I think you were so quick to jump on someone that you haven't taken the time to read any of my previous posts. I've been saying all along that their biggest problems have been the line play. Don't get me wrong, those kids I'm sure work their butts off, but there are some damn good defenses and athletes in the San Antonio League. To quote Coach Bogan,"It's all about Franks and Joe's not X's and O's."

SGV430 Ouuut!!

kh said:

hey spot in the office
i have my ring temple city 1977 champs
thats all that counts buddy.
i cant coach or play for anybody else
am only accountable for myself.
i dont wipe my sons ass,its up to him and the team to win the big dance .when can you come over to the house,ill show you what the cif patch looks like dude.or maybe ill were my jacket with it on fridays game .any way you look at it you have to earn them.say no more have a blessed day my friend.go bearcats

you're not a walnut "insider" said:

Wow, we have so many awesome online "coaches" now. Hey, Once O'shields gets fired (no chance) all of you "experts" should team up and coach for walnut. What a joke. I beg you to go to one practice this week, then report on how god horrible the staff is. I BEG YOU.I am impressed you know what a 90 series is though, you must talk to a lot of the kids around campus. Hmmmm.... #1 NUT, you are a joke man, shut up. I'm guessing you're upset with your son's playing time as well. Just sit up in the stands for one last game and try to keep your mouth shut. I'm guessing your son isn't all cracked up to be what you think he his, and im sure i'm right.
SGV, if you see the size of walnut's line, you should be smart enough to see that they cannot run smashmouth football, guess you're not so wise.

Mounty said:

30 year old timer:

I don't have any connection to Walnut. I just call it how I see it. They have TONS of talent and did a lousy job. Rhodes is a STUD who was poorly used. It doesn't take Lou Holtz to figure out you got to give the kid the ball to win. Poor coaching. Solid AD but Walnut has talent and I'm just saying, the track team has a lot of talent. Get them all out for football and put the ball in their hands.

BoHi said:

To KH:

Hey KH, its great to hear that KC played this past week God knows we need him. Good to hear that he had a good game. We will need him this week. i think we can beat Walnut.

SPARTAN DAD said:

JCAZ,
That was funny JCAZ, you got jokes. I like the way Damien is playing right now, hopefully we can keep it up. There could be alot of coin flips for playoff spots, I hate coin flips. Good luck to all! Mork out, Nano Nano

SGV For 30 Years said:

Just for the record, I did say that Damien was going to be the sleeper in the Sierra League quite some time ago. I also did an honest ranking of the teams I thought were the true top teams in the area. I think I had Damien at something like 3 or 4. I got blasted for putting them so high. I also said the Gano would get things turned around over there. I also predicted that Damien and Amat's success would be trouble for the local public schools because now kids are going to want to go to those schools. If Damien can get some of those IE kids to come there we could see a dynasty similiar to (if not better than) what he had going as LA. I think when releaguing comes around again in 4 years, the other Sierra League schools might vote Damien off the island.

Mounty: You seem to have alot of anger bottled up inside you. Almost like you have a son on that Walnut team who you think should have gotten to play more than he did. Person will not be taking that job back. Why should he. He had a nice 4 or 5 year run. 1 CIF Final, 1 semi-final, a couple more play-off appearnces. He also spent his first 4 years in the Baseline League. You also talked about Walnut's track team. How many of the players you refer to are on the track team? You may want to check that out and get back to me.
Insider: I actually agree with you about the change in the offense. Let me ask you this though why do that offense give them the best chance of winning as opposed to the Jerry's kids smashmouth style they had before get back to me no that one to.


SGV430 Ouuut!

Early Call said:


juts saying....I understand....my point was..."in any other year"...that is what I predicted and people laughed. Funny how "early" that COY comment was made and I said Damien would go "undefeated" in league and almost did....that was the tongue in cheek point I was making to SGV30.

SPot looks good in the office said:

KH

"Never should let that one slip away" Blah, Blah, three years straight same old story.

Quit making excuses, injuries are part of EVERY SPORT

Keep thinking that ring is coming pussycats way? LMFAO!

Mounty said:

Walnut Insider: O'shields is doing a HORRIBLE job. He has the maybe the best RB in the area for the last 2 years and doesn't know how to use him. He has 3 other great skill kids and can't use them either. The linemen are adequate so my take is he is doing horrible. He doesn't coach the details. Lets also mention the assistant coaches don't coach up details. Yelling and screaming and hitting the sled for hours doesn't make kids better. The Rhodes kid should be getting at least 30 touches/game any idiot can see that.

I don't see Jerry taking the job back but they need some new blood. Someone outside the Walnut family. Even when Jerry was the head coach, they had 1 good year. The rest of the time they would win 4 or 5 games at best. I don't want to hear that there is no talent... that isn't true. They always have a solid track team and have plenty of speed. They just don't coach it up.

just sayin' said:

Soon Sparta Soon - what SGV for 30 Years said was:
"Any other year I would vote for Gano as the Coach of the Year. That honor is going to go to Hagerty."

kh said:

bohi. did you go to the game are you another sat morning paper coach.
he played but not his middle linebacker spot.
they keep putting him on the line and have him blitz every spinking play ,all he dose is shoot straight in. its the same thing we did last year with are lb, in the first playoff game we blitz and they run right up the middle or throw a sreen pass right around the outside with only one player to beat.boy did it kill jeff last year being the only lb in the middle .dame just one series it would be nice to let the lb play lb. to anwser your ? k.c. got maybe 2or4 tackles pretty hard to get involved when the coach gets all pissed if he dosent ran a ten yard sprint straight for the qb every play but having two of the three starting lb makes a big differents my bohi friend.the band has turned into the twelve player, man what a night the band had if they keep up the action who knows maybe are older fans will look around and see that there at a football game not a funeral. when we go on the road are first cif game we better bring the band if its a money issue we the fans can help out with the busy.love the band march on

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

SGV430:
By definition a 90 series is to help the QB a 3 step drop and the ball is long gone. You could have done a one step, and throw it to Aubrey or Rhodes and see what they could have done. There could be a ton of reason why they didn't try it more. It seems like an easy pass, but some QBs can't make it; Rhodes & Aubrey could have kept dropping them at practice; or if the corners are up tight and that ball floats you risk a huge chance of an INT.

A lot of you think I am bashing the staff. I'm not. I think there are some problems with the staff, but for the most part they are doing a good job with what they have. Should there be more defensive adjustments? Probably. Should we have tried to get the ball into our skill players more? Probably. If you don't win, life turns into second guessing. Walnut hasn't had these type of skill players for a long time and who knows when they will have them again.

As far as Jerry taking back the varsity? I haven't heard that one at all. I don't see it, especially since the freshman have struggled the last two years. Person is a smart coach and he realizes there isn't much there. I think if he would have "taken back" the varsity program it would have been this year.

I think OShields is doing a good job for the most part. He doesn't have much to work with. I am disappointed that with the skill players he did have that nothing more developed. His greatest accomplishment right now was when he changed the offense. I think this offense gives Walnut the best chance to win.

LAfan said:

i think felipe did a reat job with a team that was suppposed to be 0-10. good luck next year LA!

Soon Sparta Soon said:

sgv 30 ...are you saying what I think you're saying..."Gano for COY? ????

seems some one beat you to that...about two months ago...lmao

SGV for 30 Years said:

Well now that league play is in it's final week, looks like the cream is rising to the top. CO has only had one serious challenge in about a month. Hope that doesn't hurt them down the line in the play-offs. The rumor of the demise of SH is turning out to be just that. They seem to be hitting their stride at the right time. I don't see Rowland being able to knock them off. Even if Ball is able to return thie week. Damien looks like they are going to get at least a share of the Sierra League title. Any other year I would vote for Gano as the Coach of the Year. That honor is going to go to Hagerty. Amat has had an amazing re-birth. It would be nice to see them make a play-off run.

To Walnut Insider,
You seem to know alot about how Walnut could have fixed their season. That 90 series you mentioned, would that have helped potect the qb? If so and you are close to the people over there. why didn't you talk to the coaches about it?

SGV Ouuut!!

who is walnut insider??? said:

no i dont believe it is jerry but it could be a coach on the lower level(acosta,mercer,lane?!?!?!)
back to jerry word on the street is he is gonna retake var head coach once o'shields is gone

Aaron said:

I'm not Ken, but I do have the answer to your question. Max Preps said he has one but that's stats kept by the staff which I have no doubt it accurate. However just his presence on the field changed what was going on. He had 2 carries; and also forced and recovered fumble.

BoHi said:

Hey K.H.

Did k.c. play this week? if so how many tackles did he get?

Mork Loves Jcaz said:

Jcaz ...it was a matter of time...that was funny!

jcaz Author Profile Page said:

Spartan Dad,

Actually, wasn't Mork a Damien fan back in the day ?

I mean, didn't he always used to twist his ears and say "Gano Gano" all the time ?

He he he...

kh said:

panther fan.
please we rolled up 35 or more points agaist that
sorry week defense. you put up more points agaist a very young defense ,well dude both linebacbers are back and evan fills good and wilson scored only 3 points .we will roll right thur your team .god i hope we play you guys again.looks to me that alot of guys good both ways,a lack of talent.good luck first round .it will hurt s.d to they have way too many players going both ways.
i love that bonita is starting to fill that groove. we have a very good bunch of team players..
after we take care of walnut next week .then fred will start to see the light bonita will break into the top ten for the first time..we played one of the strongest pre season.
played a team from san diego 9-3 last year
santa fe 9-2 last year lost by 2 late flag
clairmont qb ranked #4 in ss lost by 3
baldwin park 8-1 one loss bonita beat them at home.
charter oak beats us with 5 starters where out.
s.d 7-1 should never let that game slip away
as you see played some dame good teams with out are full unit ever
now were healthy, theres no excuse

go bearcat

jcaz Author Profile Page said:


Yikes !!

just sayin' said:

South Hills Dawgs! - the puppies have never had the nads to play the #1 team in the valley. Puppies must have been neutered!

??????? said:

Fred,
Does Los Altos still have a chance of making the playoffs if some how they do manage to beat CO which will be very difficult? If they do win then their league record would be 2-2 the same as Bonita 2-2

Mushrooms?...now we're talking said:

Sorry don't drink..."loved" me a shroomer now and then but that's a long time ago and they were part of my "indian" culture....yeah right!!! lmao

Take a lesson from randy...no matter how much you think making snide remarks will accomplish at best all you'll get is a "hey" out of me.

randy and me had our blowouts but last Friday we were on the Diamond Bar sidelines...at his invitation...enjoying the game "together"...imagine that?

I see bloggers like pool players...no one is as "good" as they say they are ... or as "bad"...everything is relative.

And that brings me to my point about the SGV and their insistence on playing against each other from pee wees thru high school... that's crazy!

Talk about a "pecking order" and not expanding your horizons.....I use Cantwell, Salesian, Bosco, La Salle and Serra as schools that might "toughen up" SGV teams and if you disagree that's fine...just say so and if you'd like...at least put a sentence or two to support your position.

Now as for my yearbook memories go...well ...at least I have them....for example...The FOX Game of the Week....Crespi vs. Notre Dame...guess what ...they were in Salesian's LEAGUE my freshmen and Soph years...pretty cool huh? And instead of seeing them from the stands I actually "started" against tehm and beat the tar out of the ND JV QB that called me out...right in the middle of the field...on the last play of the game...I have a Damien Dad who played that year and he told me once..."THAT WAS YOU!!!!"...pretty funny.

Try getting along ...as you'll soon find out...you're not as threatening or as clever as your fingers say you are....try being clever rather than crass...or worst...minus the "c" and the "r"...see ...that was clever.

Try ignoring my comments like I ignore jcaz's joke...okay...I do read them...but them again I looked at Mork and Mindy when that was on...lol.

Aaron said:

Panther Fan,
You're right how I wouldn't agree as there a bunch of non calls on PI by your DBs...and as far as holding you can see games where Bonita committed them and it killed their drives. I get what you mean about home field advantage in the series, like you said the away team has one the game in the series.

And I believe it goes to Head to Head and CO would still receive the 1 slot and Los Altos wouldn't be going because Bonita beat them, however I'm not sure, Joe Amat or even the guru know the blue book rules on that one.

South Hills Dawgs! said:

Good morning fellas. Long night last night but seems even longer for you JFR. You go after me with some put downs and so I fired back but sorry to break the news to you but I have no idea who you are big guy and don't care to either dude. You say too much in your posts so I assumed you have something to do with C.O. Quit getting your panties in a wad and being so sensitive. I was just trying to stir the pot for some fun psycho and obviously sorry the game's over with you and I because you got your feelings hurt.

As for you HuskyDo don't pretend to be high and mighty because none of us are above the law and so I'll stop now like you asked me to before but you seriously crack me up with you playing both sides bro.

Bottom line end of story South Hills will be C.I.F. Champions and #1 in the Valley. C.O. I wish we could play you but based on Guru's bracket you won't even get past West Covina. Peace homeboys!

Panther Fan said:

Fred - how does a loosing team like LA clinch the 2nd playoff spot.
League results

CO 3-0
DR 2-1
B 2-2
LA 1-2
W 0-3

Panther Fan said:

Aaron the home field advantage I was referring to was between DR and Bonita (Since the posts were directed at the upcoming game between DR and Bonita). Each year the visiting team has won at the others home field, it happened at all 4 games between the two. Yes home field can have a physcological advantage but that is as far as it goes.

R (ricardo) wayne. yes I do (Thing) that Los Altos has a LONG SHOT, which IS any kind of shot at beating CO. Like I said in a previous post, that everything and anything can happen at any given time (the skill level of the high school players is good, but not up to par like the college or pro levels). That is what makes the High School level games so interesting to watch. There have been many upsets because of unexpected circumstances that can not be forseen. You just rely on known style and expectations. In the most part I too expect CO will win, but there is a chance of some unexpected event that could change the course or outcome of the game. Even the refs have a part in it. Just depends on who they phycologically favor, that may sway there thinking on what calls to make. Just like the DR/Bonita game. Aaron or another Bonita Fan commented about the refs calls. While on the DR side we were wondering why the officals kept ignoring the many Holding Calls that should have been made against Bonita especially the ones that were directly in front view of the officals. If the people in the stands could see it from a great distance, why were the officals ignoring the fact of it happening. It just made it one reason why the game between Bonita and DR was as close as it was. DR should have won by 21 points. It's past time of speculation and Aaron would disagree with any other analogy other than his own. Just as you had disagreed with my analogy, because only your analogy is the best as you (thing).
Spectator beware of the unexpected.

Panther Fan said:

Aaron the home field advantage I was referring to was between DR and Bonita (Since the posts were directed at the upcoming game between DR and Bonita). Each year the visiting team has won at the others home field, it happened at all 4 games between the two. Yes home field can have a physcological advantage but that is as far as it goes.

R (ricardo) wayne. yes I do (Thing) that Los Altos has a LONG SHOT, which IS any kind of shot at beating CO. Like I said in a previous post, that everything and anything can happen at any given time (the skill level of the high school players is good, but not up to par like the college or pro levels). That is what makes the High School level games so interesting to watch. There have been many upsets because of unexpected circumstances that can not be forseen. You just rely on known style and expectations. In the most part I too expect CO will win, but there is a chance of some unexpected event that could change the course or outcome of the game. Even the refs have a part in it. Just depends on who they phycologically favor, that may sway there thinking on what calls to make. Just like the DR/Bonita game. Aaron or another Bonita Fan commented about the refs calls. While on the DR side we were wondering why the officals kept ignoring the many Holding Calls that should have been made against Bonita especially the ones that were directly in front view of the officals. If the people in the stands could see it from a great distance, why were the officals ignoring the fact of it happening. It just made it one reason why the game between Bonita and DR was as close as it was. DR should have won by 21 points. It's past time of speculation and Aaron would disagree with any other analogy other than his own. Just as you had disagreed with my analogy, because only your analogy is the best as you (thing).
Spectator beware of the unexpected.

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

#1 Nut:
Firing the coach really wouldn't do anything. Remember I still feel 60% their troubles is the players. I really love the idea of splitting Rhodes & Aubrey out with King as a single back. Talk about options. The problem was they couldn't get the ball in their hands enough. A quick 90 series pass would have been great. Let a tiny 5'8 DB try to take down a 6'3 210+ WR. Never happened...or at least not enough. And when they split out a LB, then go straight up the gut with King.

When you think about the potential for this offense, that's when you can really get upset and depressed about this squad.

oldschoolpanther said:

Finally Rosemead starts to put it all together at the right time. Nice job staff and keep up the good work no matter what the haters say.

wire tap said:

Walnut Insider = Jerry Person???????

R. wayne said:

Panther Fan. Do you really thing that LA has even a chance of a shot at beating CO? You might have a shot at a title next year. ONLY because CO won't be in your league. Good luck to you!

AMAT RULES said:

ONE_HUNDRAD AND FITTY-SECUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMAT tough game, but we are gonna it next week, so Joe i love you but we dont need an explanation of an at large senario because wer AMAT. Back to a point made earlier we care about all our teams because we are the best and you whiners are the rest. We compete with the BEST in the SECTION and the STATE.
GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I ain't talkin bout Michigan

who is this walnut insider said:

walnut insider im still very curious to figure out who you are as ive been around the walnut sports program for close to 5 years and have no idea who you could be

Aaron said:

Was it DRanch or another panther fan that said Home Field in high school means nothing? I know it means something at Amat and it means something even at Bonita, if just because it is Glenn Davis Stadium.

I went over to the DR-LA game, it was their senior night and no one was there. DR took care of business but I was disappointed by Los Altos, they had some flashes and at the begining it looked like it would stay close. Guess not. It almost got out of hand in the fourth with an ejection for LA, however the LA coaches ran over and got their players and defused the situation which I could say something else about DR, however the DR coaches also kept their bench from emptying so I guess they chose the right one on that. I didn't understand the calls on that one as the ball ended up on the ten yd line.

What was up with Coach Layton calling three time outs before Los Altos kicked their field goal, what was the point?

I hoping for a good game, but it left a lot to be desired...I'd like to have seen that 8-man game where SO CES scored 100 points.

jcaz Author Profile Page said:


It's been an amazing year for some of the schools out of the mission league this year. In fact, wasn't it just the other day that St Francis was the talk of the town ?

They came so darn close to winning thier game against Notre Dame but look what happend to them against Alemany on Friday night. They got beat.

I guess that there is something to be said about home field advantage in prep sports, and to tell you the truth, that is a big reason why I believe that Crespi beat Amat last night, and why I believe that Amat will beat Notre Dame at Kiefer come next Friday.

Home field is huge people !

Go Blue !

jcaz Author Profile Page said:


It's been an amazing year for some of the schools out of the mission league this year. In fact, wasn't it just the other day that St Francis was the talk of the town ?

They came so darn close to winning thier game against Notre Dame but look what happend to them against Alemany on Friday night. They got beat.

I guess that there is something to be said about home field advantage in prep sports, and to tell you the truth, that is a big reason why I believe that Crespi beat Amat last night, and why I believe that Amat will beat Notre Dame at Kiefer come next Friday.

Home field is huge people !

Go Blue !

Joe Amat Author Profile Page said:

While I still strongly feel if Amat happens to finish 3rd in the Serra they will again be the At-Large representative in the Pac5 - upon further review (sound like a replay official!) the way CIF determines strength of schedule (by opponents record) it is closer than it initially appears to be on the surface. "smallcitymc" and tcbruin" have expressed some concern that I've tried to put to rest (and still feel fairly confident) but seeing that CIF does not go "next level" by looking at *opponents-opponents record* to determine SOS their concern is "somewhat" warranted. Their process makes a game against a school like Corona Del Mar (who is winless in a weak Pacific Coast league) worth more than playing Loyola(whose schedule was off the charts) or LB Wilson worth as much as Crespi.(both could be 6-4 at seasons end). However, everyone knows who is stronger in both cases.

The computer rankings (MaxPreps/CalPreps, etc) go one level deeper and give a truer SOS. (BTW - this is one reason why Amat has one too many locals on their schedule. What hurts is pretty good schools on Amat's schedule have .500 records or less: because THEY play tough schedules like Damien, Dominguez-who should make and surprise in the playoffs while DR's 2-6 doesn't help at all. Even St Paul and Loyola - who no one would want to play, have bad W-L records - because THEY have played tough schedules)

Keep in mind if NH is 4th place team in the Sunset their record will be 6-4 (inferior to Amats 8-2) Their league will be weaker; they both will have beaten Loyola, and their opponents record will be really too close to call. It looks like it might even benefit Amat to have either FV or Los Al competing with them for a wild card because neither will have a better record - but will definitely have a weaker schedule under the CIF definition.

If Notre Dame is fortunate enough to knock off Amat at Keifer (which no team has done in the Hagerty era) then the best scenario is for Fountain Valley (9-1) to beat Los Alamitos (7-3) and for Newport Harbor (6-4) to defeat Esperanza. My first instinct was that it would be better for NH to lose - but if they lost that gives their opponents 1 more win... thus strengthening their schedule. I also thought it would good for Loyola to beat Crespi-but that gives NH's opponents 1 more win. If the Celts win - Amat gets +1 and NH doesn't.

Projected opponents records at the seasons end should be about like the following- give or take a game or two(barring any crazy upsets)..

BA (55-44) keeping in mind - Dominguez only played 9 games and it would have helped Amat if the Dons played a patsie like University or Gardena along the way.... oops!... did I say that out loud? Sorry)
FV (52-48)
LA (50-50)
NH (56-44)

Even if Newport Harbors opponents somehow end up with more wins, the best they could do is tie Amat in the given criteria. Then it is in the committees hands and becomes more subjective. And Amat wins the subjective battle too. In Amat's favor is the win over Bonnies, better "losses" (yes-there is such a thing. losses to Crespi & ND is better than a loss to Mira Costa - who'd good - but in lower division and who lost to Loyola and Esperanza). Knowing CIF - tradition, name recognition, fan base (read $$$) also could play a part in breaking ties. The only things really hurting Amat is the fact that they were the At-Large team last year. And any private school backlash - either real or imaginary. But the CIF's Football Advisory Board is heavily involved - and they have Amat at #7 (probably dropping behind dana Hills to #8) with Newport Harbor out of the Top 10. So that says what they think to this point. I don't see Newport Harbor wins over Marina and Esperanza (if it happens) as being performances that would cause any upward movement and they'd have to leap frog Mater Dei & St John Bosco to get into the Top 10.(who have the same 5-4 record and play each other in a big finale) . FYI - Amat gets in before SJB based on the victories over St Bonnies and Loyola - common opponents.

Confused yet?

All that being said, with CIF you just never know. It's like officials bad calls. You never want to put yourself in a position that it matters. Just win Friday at home and there is nothing to worry about. That's the only way to really control your destiny.

Panther Fan said:

The Final Score Diamond Ranch 30 Los Altos 10.

With 39 seconds left in the game Los Altos was at the DR 2 yard line with 1st and goal. DR held all 4 downs to keep the score 30 - 10.

All we need is a long shot win next week by Los Altos over Charter Oak and DR will be tied with CO for 1st in League.

beep beep dan said:

last I heard it was 30 to 10 with a few min. left in the game..

bearcat fan said:

does anyone know the score to the DRanch Los Altos game

#1 Nut said:

Walnut is not a bad team. They just need to fire the AD, and Head Coach. AD for what he did to the football team before he went and coach the freshman team. The head coach for not know how to call plays. How do you keep Copper in as QB when he has no arm. I watch him throw the ball behine #88 all year, and why do you put #32 as a wr. One more year and I am gone. O ya good luck to SH with CO.

HuskyDo said:

dear south hills dawgs,,,,,, stop embarrassing yourself and The Husky Nation. Maybe Fred should set up a junior blog for bench warmers that like throwing insults around. so we can spare the rest of the valley your misplaced anger.

its gotta be the rooms said:

Maybe that explains spelling the, teh, mushrooms.

JFR said:

Hushpuppy, I grew up on the corner of charvers and whitebirch, thats in WC. Ask Arkle or Reed who I am you sorry person. I hope u have the nads "small" to meet me. P.S. I own that property on charvers do you whant to rent? 3500

Frank Corona drinking a budweiser yet again said:


Once agin we have to hear about Salesian. At least once every other week or so Frank goes on some kind of memory lane trip while he is loaded on mushrooms, and we have to hear about it. Who cares about Salesian anyway ? Put down the stupid year book frank. It's about the san gabriel valley, not about some school in the high desert or inland empire. DONT YOU HET IT FRANK ?

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

Mustang Football,
Just to be clear, I did post on Walnut's win over Nogales, not in the Saturday Morning thread, but in another thread;

"Now before I get to Walnut's big game this week let's look at last week. I was very impressed with the way Walnut came out and dominated the game against Nogales. Walnut has a bad history of playing down to their level of competition. I know there was a fear that Walnut would have to slug it out with Nogales like they did last year, but that wasn't a concern last week. This is the way Walnut should have come out against DB, Sonora, and Arroyo. But it's better late than never as they say. Hats off to OShields and his staff for getting the team up and having them not only physically ready, but also mentally ready. They showed who the better squad was and from the onset it was clear Walnut would run away with it, but like I said nice job of the coaches not letting it turn into another Covina game."

I do give credit where and when credit is due. Do I criticize? Yes I do simply because we could have done better. With 3 skill players, we should have been in the game more than we were. We didn't get the ball into their hands enough. Whether it be because the coaches didn't call the plays or the players didn't execute.

Our defense never...read that never, adjusted to stop an offense. That's not putting anyone down, that's just stating the truth. Walnut could have made the playoffs, but the didn't.

Want something positive? We beat DB for the Branding Iron, which in my eyes does make this somewhat of a successful season. I guess since my expectations were so high, I overlooked that.

JFR said:

If you know who I am please type my name, pussy! Still pulling splinters out of your @ss. your a joke!

JJIMENEZ said:

sorryrosemead & coup attempt

Ummm...what the hell are you 2 talking about??? haha

!!!FEAR THE MEAD!!!WAR PANTHERS!!!

South Hills Dawgs! said:

JFR,

We know who you are your our our version of "Radio" your words not mine by the way but the only difference is I hear you actually don't do anything even just on Friday nights. At least our "Radio" gets kids recruited including on your own team. What have you done lately for your alumni other than jump ship. At least you picked the right ship the Titantic! Your going down dude and you just can't handle that there is nothing you can say or do about it. Good night good old buddy pal. Sweet dreams or should I say run to Mommy when you have a nightmare about us except we're not going to be any old nightmare but your worst reality. Haha!

co fan base said:

ITS A WARM FUZZY FEELING KNOWING THAT THE HUSKIES HAVE CO ON THERE MIND 24-7...MEANWHILE WERE JUST GONNA GET BETTER EVERY WEEK SHUT OUR MOUTHS AND JUST DO WHAT WEVE BEEN DOIN THE THE LAST 23 OF 24

DONT DISRESPECT THE DIVISION OR YOU WILL GET SNAKE BIT AND HAVE TO WATCH US PLAY IN DECEMBER FOR THE 4TH YR IN A ROW :)

HAVE A LOVELY EVENING..AND DONT THINK WE DONT WANT THAT GAME TO HAPPEN..

35-0 WILL BE A HAPPY MEMORY...THATS REAL SPIT

I've been here! said:

Getting out of here:

Let me clarify something for you. I've been around football for over 35 years now, I played in high school played all 4 years in college.

I'm not here to attack anyone, but I am here not as a coach (because 1. I am not a coach nor have I coached a sport in my life). But just because I never coached doesn't mean I don't know a thing or two about football.

But I know Walnut and I know that many of the kids their have a great love for the game. I as a FORMER player would not sacrifice their hard work, because of a few peoples opinions. That's it, that's all.

So I will blog when I believe I should blog and I don't believe you can stop me.

Lastly, I will do what I have always done for the holidays; spend time with the wife and my kids families, as well as travel, something that I do every year. Thanks for caring about my holidays I appreciate it.

JFR said:

SH D!@* I mean dawg,

I went to and graduated from SH how about you. Are you telling me I can't spell because I don't use spell check like you ahole. I played for your head coach and happen to have a great respect for him unlike I have for you. He knows who I post under, ask away and please seek me out. I BEEEEEEEEG you. Quit speeking for the team you don't play for, Im sure he would tell you the same. Am I right GURU, it seems I hit a nerve with someone. iz jst a homy howz getnnn overs onz somsbobyz.


venture out said:


who cares...because you're not "nutting up" here. go play some real teams instead of the continuing on the Pop Warner circuit...trust me when I say this... unless you play outside the SGV you're never understand why you get beat so often.

get out of here said:

mustang football sounds like the real insider and he's feeling sorry for himself today. you better because no one else does since you guys are the ones that allow your kids to act like that this summer and now are getting what you deserve because that carried over to the fall. winners win and well you can figure out the rest from there. you can't have it both ways coach. keep giving him a hard time walnut insider and mustang football stay off the blog and figure out what your doing for the holidays.

Mustang Football said:

Walnut Insider:

I respect that you are a true fan of sports, particularly Walnut Football.

I understand you have to voice what you think is right and correct concerning this season. But here is my question. What good have you done? Are you doing it in such a way that does or does not help the program.

Its very easy to criticize a sport, a player, a coach, but sometimes the criticism doesn't do anything for the program. Especially since many of these kids have worked extremely hard to succeed in this sport. By bashing them, the coaches, I think is more detrimental to the kids as well as the Coaches. I believe you are trying to help this program out. But please, please, learn how to do it in a constructive manner. This program deserves more than this, and these players do to, as well as the coaches.

I ask you please refrain from anything that is detrimental to everybody. Please try to be more positive. You could of gave the Mustang props for the win against Nogales, but you waited a whole week and after a loss to say something. Give credit when credit is do, When they beat Nogales their should of been some love. Please help them not bring them down.

South Hills Dawgs! said:

JFR,

Always so quick to defend C.O. with seriously stupid comments that don't have anything to do with football but instead personal attacks. You can't spell and can't evaluate football either because we are much deeper than our skilled positions. Regardless if you will get back to talking football we have more team speed and talent on both sides of the ball compared to you.

I saw your game on T.V. vs. Rancho Cucamonga and you will not be able to stop our offense with your defense and our defense is better than your offense too. I just don't see you winning the game because we make too many more plays than you do and who you refer to as Radio actually has said very matter of fact like the rest of South Hills staff that we are out to prove a point against you guys and coaches and players are not going to rest until we literally ruin your lives.

So blow hot air or whatever you blow smart tough guy but just hope you lose before we embarrass you and take back what is rightfully ours and that's the best team in the Valley boy!

FUNNY said:

I get it SH, bogan.radio.guru.radio.radio.radio.shopping cart.radio.guru.idiot.radio.guru.cart.radio.scout.wanabe.doorknob.you-never-played-the-sport-moron. goaway!

Joe Amat Author Profile Page said:

First off, congrats to the Celts on their win last night. In the Serra League there is no surprise win by anybody and the Celts deserved it last night. Either way you look at it , win or lose last night, Amat is playing for the league title next Friday. To play for the league title on the last game of the regular season in what is this years 3rd best league in the NATION... I'd say you're programs in a pretty good place and going in the right direction. Especially when you compare the state of the program to amat from 2 seasons ago (yes 73 - the "little a" was intentional!). So that's the goal to win that at home in front of our own fans.

In a 4 team league there is no room for slippage, no margin of error and a bunch of scenarios. Amat, ND, & Crespi could all be 2-1. ND could be 3-0, & Crespi 2-1 and Amat 1-2, OR ND could be 3-0 with Amat/Crespi AND Loyola all at 1-2. That's a mess. That means one of those teams is in 4th and league can only submit ONE team for at-large consideration... so the 4th place team is S.O.L.. Best way to control that is take care of your own business. BUT...

I know that Steve Fryer, in the Register is going to advocate for the OC Leagues (as I guess I would for Amat), but of we just look at numbers,facts, the criteria the CIF uses - for him to say "the guess here is that the No. 4 team will get the Pac-5's lone at-large berth." is just not a very educated guess) Much of that depends upon WHO ends up in 4th in the Sunset League. And of course we never want to look at "just numbers and facts in papers or blogs... we want feelings and wishes. But that's not the way the CIF office looks at it. They can't... they have to use as many "objective" data as possible.

If Los Al (7-2) beats Fountain Valley (8-1), AND Newport Harbor (5-4) beats Esperanza (maybe a bigger AND) - all three teams will be 3-2 behind Edison. After the coin flip if Newport Harbor is in 4th - they're toast with 4 losses. If Los Al or Fountain Valley end up in 4th at 8-2, they conceivably could be in the mix in the event Amat finishes in 3rd and they compete with Amat for an At-large spot. However, neither will have a bigger win than St Bonnies and neither would have losses to teams comparable to Crespi and/or Notre Dame.

There is a very good chance that every team on Amat's preleague schedule outside of St Paul will be a playoff team with 4 potential league champions on their schedule. Fountain Valley and Los Alamitos overall preleague schedule was not very good - so Amat has the advantage there too. (And BTW... we haven't had any recent drive-by visits from St Paul fans proclaiming their rise to excellence with return of Ancich. Where is the Slime?)

Assuming that the 3 teams amongst consideration will be FV, LA, & Amat
Here is the criteria CIF will use to determine the representative.

(a) Head-to-head competition of teams under consideration (4 points)
- No head to head amongst those in consideration

(b) Overall strength of the league from which the team is entered (1 point)
- in CalPreps Serra is the #2 ranked league and Sunset is #3 in the CIF-SS. Serra is #3 NATIONALLY and Sunset is #16 (Amat wins this category - 1pt)

(c) Overall win-loss record (1 point)
- All three teams in this scenario are 8-2

(d) Strength against common opponents (1 point)
None of the 3 teams in this scenario will have any common opponents (if it were Newport Harbor - both would have beaten Loyola)

(e) Strength of schedule (2 points, *using overall win-loss record of opponents*)
- (not worth doing the math - Amat wins BIG in this category)

(f) Free lance teams will be part of the pool for the filling of at-large berths
No Free Lance teams in Pac5

So NONE of the listed criteria favors the Sunset League in any way shape or form. Regardles of what Fryer "feels" or "guesses". Again, facts are a bitch. They don't lie.

Thankfully, next year, with the addition of Alemany and growing to a 5 team league, the Serra gets 3 automatics and the "at-large" foolishness is eliminated. Teams can then take control of their own destiny on the field. Unless of course there is a tie for 3rd and we have coin-flip scenarios like the unfortunate Miramonte fiasco between Bonita/Los Altos/Diamond Ranch a couple years back. Leagues should ensure that never happens again by stating very clear criteria for breaking ties - similar (or exactly) to the criteria CIF lists above.

Again, if there is anybody that doesn't think this is a great scenario to be in is absolutely crazy and doesn't understand true competition. If you don't deep down want to play the best and play in games that can go either way with something on the line ... I'm not sure I want you on my team. Every time a team is in a position where it is absolutely necessary to give your best because your best is needed - it makes you better... as a player and as a man.

So no offense to anyone, but I would still much rather be in this position and take my chances than to be in a situation where it didn't matter how I played because we far overmatched an inferior opponent. Sorry... maybe that's just me.... anyone else?

Coup Attempt said:

SORRYROSEMEAD!-

Firing everyone expect Koffler still means you have a bad head coach. Why not get rid of him and his staff altogether.

SORRYROSEMEAD! said:

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JJIMENEZ said:

After graduating a class of talented & experienced seniors, early season injuries to key players, a kid quitting oh his team. It looks like the Mead has finally found its identity...(then again it was ElMo)


!!!FEAR THE MEAD!!!WAR PANTHERS!!!

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sounds like "the mead" is headed for trouble when playoffs are here. talked all the way to the final last year, paraclete brought you back to earth. you complained about the weather, and made it the sole excuse for not playing like you normally did the whole season. same BS this year.

you die-hard Rosemead fans need to stop this ( !!!FEAR THE MEAD!!!WAR PANTHERS!!! ) and concentrate on how long more BEFORE Rosemead actually wins a CIF Title. KOFFLER needs to get rid of his staff, if he thinks he wants to make a much more serious run at a CIF title.

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

You are not an insider:
Where do I start to with this? Yes, Walnut is going to be 7-3 and you are right that is a nice record, but did they make the playoffs? Wasn't that the ultimate goal for this team? Isn't that what the coaching staff has been saying for the last 3 years? When they started a bunch of sophomores the idea was that it would pay off when they were seniors...did that happen? Nope. So after waiting 3 years for the payoff and it doesn't happen, do I have a right to be disappointed? Yes I do. And you know what? I bet every coach sitting in the office is feeling disappointed too. They knew this was their best shot and they (coaches and players) didn't come through.

As for me going to the games, I have been going to the games long before you and I will still be going to the games long after you. I have been on the sidelines for at least one game for every staff since Patricio. I stand by what I said earlier in the year. And if you want to call me out on it fine. But you can't say anything about what I hear in the stands coming from the booth.

As far as me coaching, I wouldn't want to. Walnut doesn't have much talent or character left. The coaches know it as do former coaches, which is why some left. So when you get some good skill kids come through you can't waste them. I would say there was some wasted talent this year. Now, as I said week 1, Rhodes wasn't running hard like he should have. And he never really stood out like he could have. They had the perfect offense for this squad and nothing happened. If you remember I said 60% of Walnut's problems came from the players, the rest was the coaching.

Yeah "you know who I am", I have heard that before too. Tony Galman called me out last year and said I was Coach James. I have been associated with Walnut longer than James and most likely you. I have been following Walnut sports for a very long time now and I am more attached to them than you are. I'm not here for 4 years then gone. I have been watching them since the 80's and just comment on what I see and who I talk to. I feel my analysis is pretty much dead on. And you can't fault me for reporting what I hear from the coaches and players.

I am here to stay. As long as Walnut has sports, I will be reporting on what I see and know. Live with it.

CURIOUS HUSKIE FAN said:

IS THE GURU ON THE HEADSETS AT THE FOOTBALL GAMES? OR IS THAT HIS RADIO?

elias buckwalter said:

Fred, In your game story you have South Hills as the number two ranked team in the Mid Valley Division. They are in the Southeast. No big deal-just wanted to let you know so you can correct it.

FOOLISH:[ said:

ANONYMOUS, P13 BOY,

WILL BE READY FRIDAY, AND THE ONLY AZZ WHIPPING WILL BE ON THE FIELD. YOU'LL SEE. LATER CHOLA!

who cares said:

SALESIAN??? WHERE IS THAT SCHOOL EVEN LOCATED? WHY SHOULD WE PLAY THEM.

Just a thought said:


Maybe teams like Walnut, Diamond Bar and maybe even the Azusa Aztecs would do well to schedule Salesian. Salesian matches up with most those schools and obviously I think it would be a great game for all.

I also think teams like South Hills and Charter Oak would do well to schedule Serra Gardena or Cathedral. Last year both those teams were loaded with physical players and speed demons...plus they are both extremely well coached.

No one says you have to go to the OC or play public inner city schools to toughen up but the schools I've mentioned take their football as serious as their mom's reputation...no joke...these guys play hard and play tough.

Just saying...

Salesian should be 7-2 heading into a showdown with St. Genie's for the League Title but had to forfeit games...not sure why...but are undefeated in league with Coach Roddy Hiatt at the helm after that dirt bag former HC was finally replaced.

Roddy Hiatt was at El Rancho when they started winning again and he's done it again with Salesian...Mustangs wil make the playoffs again and see where we end up.

Some say...Salesian ain't in the SGV but on Damien's team Salesian Dads are well represented.lol CO had an Encinas who's dad ref'd the Amat/Damien game and who's son Kevin play LB for CO and is not at Citrus...so there's reason to take note.

Best of luck to DR tonight against LA!!!

JFR said:

SH puppydawg, I was at my homecoming last night "SH" and wathed you play a very average team. SH has a very good team with very good skilled kids, I was just trying to point out that like other things you tend to speak prematurely. If the two teams we root for meet in the finals it will be great and if your not there we'll see you next year in league. Now go back to your DAAAWWWWG house an clean yourself you mean dawg who barks,bites,licks himself or whatever the hell it is you badass dawgs do. P.S. tell RADIO eeeerrrrr GURU I said hello.

Anonymous said:

hahaha yeah what does Gladstone know about getting serious when it comes to the playoff time?
Foolish lecturing you Warrior Nation thats a joke in itself.go play in the stands foolish and continue with your dream well wake you when were done kicking your ass.

please said:

I have to admit, we were beaten HANDILY last night... But that's ok. We will be ready for ND. DJ and Cazares and company will NOT have two bad games in a row! AMAT WILL SHINE!

foolish said:

WARRIOR NATION,

LETS GET SERIOUS? HHAHAHA... GLADSTONE WILL WAKE YOU UP AND THEN YOU'LL REALIZE YOUR IN THIRD PLACE.

WARRIOR NATION, YOUR COMMENT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SEE WHAT'S COMING?? MAYBE ANOTHER TEAM PUTS UP 50 ON LP, AND THEN IT WILL BE ALL OVER AND YOU'LL BLAME IT ON THE PLAYERS! AS LONG AS THERE WINNING LET THEM PLAY!

Fallin Vike said:

Where you at Pomona? The team has officially imploded as suspected. Such a sad mess out there with the talent you have. 7-2! Are you serious?

You are not an insider said:

Walnut "insider",
You are an idiot! Shut up for once. When is the last time Walnut has had a chance to be 7-3? Think about it. If youre so dissapionted, stop going to the games....we dont want you there. if you have a problem with the staff, talk to them in person, not on a blog. We already know who you are! Stay off our field. Stop hiding behind your screen name.If the coaches are that bad, why dont you coach? Becaause you dont know sh!t about football or how to coach it.

HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FAN said:

lets go panthers win tonight and we r in the playoffs.....then its all even..you could forget about the early games and consentrate on one game at a time....dr panthers make us proud!!!!!

South Hills Dawgs! said:

JFR,

That was then and this is now so don't go telling me everything is going to be ok with you guys. YOU have to get to the dance first fella. You haven't seen us play and if you have you and I both can agree we're a much better team than you are right now so go bark to someone else that is going to listen to you because I'm not fooling around with you were going to sink are teeth in you this year and when we bite we are biting for keeps. Your just not that good and we have just too many athletes for you to beat us. Shh!

Warrior Nation said:

Frustrated Warrior I hear your concerns I have seen this the last three or four games. You have lower level coaches on the sidelines socializing when they could be taking care of the bench. Look at other programs all their lower division coaches are on the sideline taking care of business. The Varsity coaches have their hands full with what is going on the field.
The maturity level of some of these kids well I think you know where I'm going so I'll shut up.
Look at the post by "We are close..Very Close" where he says "seems the Spartans have taken the perspective that this is serious "team" business and they have a bigger goal in mind...the playoffs."
If only some of the Warrior kids took it as serious as the rest of us do they wouldn't be doing some of the stuff they do.But then again we are coming off a one win season a lot of these kids don't know that other teams that make the play-offs are serious. Maybe we should get to the play-offs and get our asses kicked and then maybe the guys screwing around will realize and see how other play off teams act.
I will say this despite all the stupidity on the sidelines the kids finally played a overall great game little or no mistakes, concentration on the line was great.
It's play off time and I hope the boys get a little more serious about it

smallcitymc said:

tcbruin,

I mentioned a couple of weeks back that the Serra league was in danger of losing the at-large berth to the Sunset league. Both leagues have great teams so it literally could be a toss-up between not only the teams, but the league. Amat needs to beat ND in order to guarantee themselves a playoff spot. A though proposition, but doable. I know JoeAmat knows way more about this than I do and he believes that the at-large will most likely come out of the Serra.

BTW, Damien congrats on your victory. This is what happens when you DON'T schedule cupcakes in pre-season.

call what i see said:

Jcaz said I'm gonna get ripped because of my comment:

You saw what is reality and what I have said all season. These kids have played their tails off and have to be comp limented. Unfortunately it finally caught up to them. They have been out manned by at least three or maybe even four schools. They've been able to find a way to win, by way of sheer guts or even a.trick play here and there.
The boys should be proud of what they've accomplished, but if you don't have the horses it's pretty tough to win the race. 3 or 4 kids on defense and the offense for that matter, is not going to do it either. Thier offensive and defensive lines were just incredible. WOW! Stats tell the tail even in the game we've won.
Jcaz you saw the game through reality and most of these people see with their hearts. Not a bad thing I guess. When.you say one of our premier players got beat several times, well so did our young golden boy that every one makes such a fuss about with his inexperience at the safety position. Dosen't make him bad, just inexperienced. It will be pretty tough to get by Norte Dame next week. I really truely hope that some how, some way, they can pull it off. And for all of you that take this wrong "TOUGH SHEET". Just call what I see. ON BLUE!!!

mrlippy Author Profile Page said:

ok, one last comment on the shhs whs game..... wtf is up with walnut fans.... i counted with my one good eye, only about 200 people on that side of the field. you don't think those kids on the side lines notice that? that kind of support is frickin horrible. what, you guys can't make it over the big grand hill? shoot you cpuld coast from the top of it to district field practically....support your sports! i am so disapointed these days with students and parents who don't come out on a friday night and support there school. thats it, i'm out!

mrlippy Author Profile Page said:

ok, one last comment on the shhs whs game..... wtf is up with walnut fans.... i counted with my one good eye, only about 200 people on that side of the field. you don't think those kids on the side lines notice that? that kind of support is frickin horrible. what, you guys can't make it over the big grand hill? shoot you cpuld coast from the top of it to district field practically....support your sports! i am so disapointed these days with students and parents who don't come out on a friday night and support there school. thats it, i'm out!

amnot said:

Congrats to the amat freshman for out shining the yarsity super studs of the sgv.

We are close...very close said:


Damien took care of business last night and unlike other Spartan/DB games played a game based on fundamentals and execution rather than just throwing deep and out running the corners as DHS has done in the past...huge improvement over the previous regime.

James Ramirez is a flat out stud football player. Kid gives 100% ...100% of the time. Just a pleasure to watch him practice and play.

The defense is playing extremely well...punishing QBs and making runners pay for crossing the line...great intensity from start to finish...the dline coaches really have created a solid unit of well conditioned, solid ballers..kudos to them.

One thing I've noticed since the Chino Hills game is the Spartans are controlled in their celebrations as the whistle ends the game...huge to say the least.....seems the Spartans have taken the perspective that this is serious "team" business and they have a bigger goal in mind...the playoffs.

Chino and Diamond Bar games, heck even Claremont games, used to be a Spartan display that rarely matched their season's overall effort...I mean why hoop and holler when you're beating lesser opponents...save that for great wins...just my opinion. Last night Damien won with class, conducted themselves with honor and put a hurt on a lesser opponent and walked off he field with like League Champions....Gano and Co have really begun to "get to these kids"...and that's a good thing.

Congrats Spartans...Chino awaits!

Frustrated Warrior said:

A few notes to La Puente Warrior players.
1. Pay attention on the sidelines. This is week nine and we still have guys screwing around on the sidelines and not being on the field when they are supposed to be. On change overs we still have guys running onto the field that should be with helmets off and sprinting onto the field. Someone needs to be coaching the bench. In the playoff you won’t see that kind of stuff.
2. If your hurt and you have ice on your leg stay on the bench and get off it. Why are you over by the stands talking to friends and walking around. This is a football game be a part of the team on the field If you want to go sit in the stands, quit and go sit in the stands act like part of the team and show some interest what is going on , on the field.
3. I was surprised to see with a big lead at the half and after coming out after the half guys on the field clowning around for their friends in the stands. Walking stupid and stuff. #3 & #4 This is the time for hard work you are going to be in the CIF playoffs I have been to a lot of playoff games and I have never seen one team act like you guys do on the field. Act like a playoff team not a bunch a stupids.
4. You guys on the bench clowning around with each other and with people in the stands you better get serious because if you don’t you will get your butts kicked come playoff time.

JJIMENEZ said:

After graduating a class of talented & experienced seniors, early season injuries to key players, a kid quitting oh his team. It looks like the Mead has finally found its identity...(then again it was ElMo)


!!!FEAR THE MEAD!!!WAR PANTHERS!!!

jcaz Author Profile Page said:


New Jersey, You are correct.

SGV Football, I think that we get in if that happens though.

just an observer said:

With Diamond Ranch Last year making it to the finals of playoffs even with a rocky start...Can Damien 09', duplicate D.R. 08" and make a run for the playoff finals? Looks like a big "IF", but from the looks of the mid-season the gears are oiled, pistons are fired up and the engine pointing to the right direction. just looking for your opinion not here to flame anyone on.
Amat you have N.D. next week. Fire it up you have been playing great football all year.

BP Alumni said:

Went to the Sierra Vista game last night to see La Puente. The last time I saw them play was at Baldwin Park and they look like a different team last night. They looked more organized and ready. Good luck Warriors I still think you still couldn’t beat us though. I being force to say good luck my wife is a warrior

Conq '76 said:

Either way guys, the game is not on the "quarter by quarter" scoreboard feature...

JFR said:

SH dog, You told us over and over last year how you were going to crap on CO in the finals and what happened. OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH thats right, you lost to our little sister "DR" in the semi's and watched us spank them from the stands.

NOT OUR STYLE said:

Concerned Parent,
Somethings are better left alone and not put on the blog

Whatever said:

look out said:
LA PUENTE, WARRIOR NATION (SUCK)!

Please do us all a favor and don't come on here tooting your BULL HORN, because winning small schools THAT don't mean crap! YOU'LL LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND AND LOOK WHO YOU'LL BE PAIRING UP WITH? UUUUHHH, A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM, WITH REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS!

LA PUENTE WILL CHONK!

Yeah you think we suck but have fun choking on that turkey bone while sitting your sorry butt at home come play-off time

SGV FOOTBALL said:

did you guys see this score???

Sherman Oaks CES 100, Community Harvest 54

SGV FOOTBALL said:

Good morning all,

Tough loss to Crespi yesterday... Amat fans can you explain to me what will happen if BA loses to ND and Crespi beats Loyola. ND- 3-0, Crespi 2-1, BA 1-2, and Loyola 0-3. Is there still a shot that BA can make the playoffs, with the way that the OC teams are playing???

Think about it???,

Your wrong, I dont always give CO the advantage. This years, I will say it again the BA varsity would beat the CO Varsity this year no doubt about it. As far as the freshman goes, CO has tons of skilled players, and I it would give edge to CO only for the freshman.

JOSE said:

Los Altos DR play today at ganesha hi

LA-DR game said:

is tonight, could is tonight, could have sworn it was last supposed to be last night though

Conq '76 said:

Oversight, the LA-DR game is not on the scoreboard, any reason why not?

Concerned Parent said:

Number #6 on Amat Freshmen team transferred out, because his dad felt he wasn`t getting enough touches. What kind of message is this to a kid. It`s alright to quit when things aren`t going your way. Good luck to that kid and grow up to the father it`s your sons career not yours.

tcbruin Author Profile Page said:

Disappointing loss for Amat but it's time to let it go cause they need to focus on ND.

In the OC, the PAC5 at large berth to Serra #3 is NOT a given:

http://www.ocvarsity.com/sports/league-17890-edison-team.html

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

SGV430:
I don't want to bash Walnut for their pre-season, you can only play the teams you schedule. I don't have a problem with them scheduling Covina and Arroyo. Arroyo has a solid record and Covina has some wins as well. Diamond Bar is a rivalry game that you need to have. So I guess when I complain about the pre-season, it's more of HOW we won the game. We slugged it out with Sonora and Arroyo. And for a time Diamond Bar. Covina had a real chance to win as well. Garey was the only pre-season game where we dominated like we should have.

Nogales was a great win because it showed how we should have been beating those teams. Walnut is better than all of the pre-season teams, but you wouldn't have known it by the score. With Nogales, they came out from the start and never let up, never gave Nogales a chance...which is exactly what South Hills did to Walnut last night.

Walnut doesn't have better talent than South Hills or West Covina, but when Ball went down they should have been able to capitalize on it, and they didn't. Rhodes, King, Cooper, and Aubrey never dominated when they should have. Everyone should share responsibility on that.

It comes down to this, this was OShields' most talented team and nothing changed. Blame the coaches, blame the players, but the result is the same. It's just disappointing.

fred
steve could tweet updates from his cel phone =]

speaking of which...

GET LIVE UPDATES FROM TOMORROW'S MT. SAC/CERRITOS GAME ON HTTP://WWW.TWITTER.COM/MOUNTIEWIRE

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New Jersey said:

Jcaz,

I've been paying attention from across the country this year, so I may not have all of my facts right, but if Loyola beats Crespi next week, and Amat loses to ND, wouldn't that make Amat, Crespi and Loyola all 1-2 and therefore in a three way tie for second place, which would then necessitate a coin flip which could possibly leave Amat out of the play off picture with a fourth place finish?

SGV for 30 Years said:

Amat, you had a great run this season. Don't let this one game make you lose focus on the prize. Better to lose now than in 2 weeks.

To all you Walnut bashers,I don't get your logic. You are telling me that had that had Walnut scheduled a tougher pre-season they would have been able to beat Wesco, Rowland, and South Hills? That all sounds good, but anyone who has been to a game knows that all three of those teams are bigger stronger and faster. Insider, here is football 101 for you. Football is about blocking and tackling. The team that does that the best will usually win games. You can have all the skill guys you want. But if you can't block the other guy, you are going to lose. I say Walnut schduled well. The coaches knew exactly what their season was going to be like 6-3 sounds a heck of alot better than 2-5.

SGV430 Ouuut!

jcaz Author Profile Page said:


Notes on Amat

Tough loss tonight, but because Notre Dame beat up on Loyola tonight, 45-14, the worst we can come out in all of this, is in a third place tie with Loyola and as you know, we already beat them last week.

Anyhow, it’s Monday morning quarter back time….

First of all, I have to say that in my opinion, that on side kick was a bit to early to in the game to have been attempted. Having said that however, if that ball had gone even one foot further, I am more than certain that we would have recovered that ball, and would have been sitting very pretty at that point in the game.

Unfortunately, however, when you gamble and lose, then the whole darn thing can really blow up in your face and everything goes down the toilet very quickly. Well, that’s kinda what happened there at the end tonight.

Anyway, I left the game shortly after seeing the Celts come with in a few feet of yet another score. To tell you the truth, I was a little surprised that they didn’t end up scoring another touchdown at the end to make it 42 to 25.

Hey what gives with the ref’s at the end of that game anyway ? Usually when a team loses in a tough way, the losing teams fans end up ripping the zebras for one thing or another. Unfortunately that’s a sign of bitterness and piss poor excuse from those fans, and I for one don’t like playing that “blame game.”

However, in this case I will have to make an exception to this rule because those ref’s really stuck the proverbial steak in our hearts at the end there. Now, don’t get me wrong, we probably still would have lost that game, but at that point in the game, we still had something of a fighting chance to have at least scored a few more points and possibly get a chance to see Ragsdale hit a 50 yarder to take us into overtime. Oh well, I suppose that it was not to be tonight…

Also, since were doing Monday morning quarter back here. Did anyone get the feeling that there was a poor match up with our defense back field against their pass offense tonight ?

Wow, what an offensive performance on the part of the Celts eh ? Those guys are very very good and they really showed up to play football tonight. However, as many of you know, I have always felt that if Amat ever had one weakness, it was always in our pass defense.

For some reason, teams that play very well against us, usually are able to exploit that one single thing against us because so often, they soon come to realize that our defensive lines are so solid against the run that they cant do anything worth a darn there.

When we played so well defensively against Alemany, I though that for sure, that that concern was finally corrected, but tonight, one of our premier players kept getting burned for big passing plays over and over again.

In fact, it didn’t just happen once, it happened at least two or maybe even three times. Those pass plays were absolutely critical because in the end, they ended up either setting up a score, or they resulted in an outright touchdown against us.

Look, these sorts of things happen of course, but jezz-la-wheez, what the hey anyway ??? Make adjustments out there people !

And ya, I know that I’m gonna get ripped apart for these comments, but the facts are what they are, and ya can’t just sugar coat the mismatch’s that were so evident out there on that field tonight.

Anyway, like I just said, Notre Dame did us a big favor tonight by beating Loyola so we should be in regardless of what we do next week against the Knights.

WERD UP said:

AMAT LOSE NEXT WEEK LOSE IN FIRST PLAYOFF GAME. THEY SUCK. WERD UP.

SEMHS EAGLES 28
GHS EAGLES 3


It was like deja-vu, flashing back to 2 years ago, when SEMHS last played on Gabrielino's home stadium. It had (like tonight's game) the potential to be a sick blowout, but the refs were pathetically allowing GHS' head coach to plead his case on calls. Not to mention using the flags as party favors for GHS.

Case in point, a throwing pass by GHS was clearly tipped and went up in the air, and came into the hands of a SEMHS Db, but as he caught it, flags were thrown, so everyone thought maybe a pass interference call as the refs huddled, they discussed it, and ruled NO FOUL and possession to SEMHS. As SEMHS was getting ready to start another drive, GHS' head coach kept bitching about the call, he chastised the head ref for not sticking with his original ruling. So the refs huddle again, and now they reverse the reverse call, and handed the ball to GHS, what a bunch idiots.

It's ok, we intercepted again and scored.

At least we should be a guaranteed #3 spot for the Mission Valley Leage for the playoffs.

WERD UP said:

CRESPI SHINES TONIGHT. HA HA HA AMAT SUCKS. WERD UP

eagle_football said:

how about them eagles beating the eagles.
yea!!!!!!!
arroyo is next.
Rosemead was a fluke.
SEM baby

wrong score said:

Fred

ur final score 2 the bonita wilson game is wrong it was 47-3 Bonita

wrong score said:

Fred

ur final score 2 the bonita wilson game is wrong it was 47-3 Bonita

Aaron said:

Hey man thanks for informing, that stinks, our guys should understand and as well as any high school player should know that school is the top priority because if you don't take care of it in the classroom you can't play on the field.

To the hater:
Do you honestly believe you matter, honestly make a comment about your team instead of saying Bonita sucks. I've been to every game except one this season and I know whether or not they suck, can't be so bad even in your eyes since they're going to the playoffs.

GO BEARCATS!

FredJ said:

Notre Dame 45, Loyola 14

Sorry said:

Hey Sorry, what do you mean go to Miguel's blog, he doesn't have any scoring updates. The scorebaord is the same scoreboard you dope.

Smallcitymc said:

Genius said:

"The true amat comes out when they start playing real teams. to bad St bonavetre suck this year and that win was a fluk."

Let me enlighten you genius. St. Bonnie is 8-1, with the only loss being the Amat game. The L.A. Times calls Loyola the best 4-4 team in the area.

The scoreboard doesn't lie. Crespi was the better team. With that said, If you would have asked me at the start of season if Amat could hang with ND I would have said no. That is no longer the case. Amat has an excellent chance of winning league.

FredJ said:

Sorry there were no live updates from Amat tonight, there was nowhere for Steve to sit with a computer and do it. He's busy enough trying to stay on top of the game keeping stats, so when he doesn't have a place to sit and get organized, it's tough to do....

hes done said:

Aaron

Deron didnt play due to a sore cav he couldve played but they wanted 2 rest him he played a few snaps tho and Calvin is no longer part of the team due to grades so hes done 4 the season

Walnut Insider Author Profile Page said:

What can I say? I said Walnut needed to come out with the same intensity that they did last week, they didn't. They needed South Hills to make some mistakes, they didn't (we did).

I'm not going to "blast" anyone, I will simply say that the way Walnut looked tonight you wouldn't have known they were playing for a potential playoff berth.

That's it. Now we get to hear for another year about how next year will be different for Walnut. I am shocked with the skill players they had this year, they couldn't do more...just shocked. Definitely the most disappointing year for Walnut in some time.

BONITA said:

WOW, LOOK WHO BONITA WON, ANOTHER SORRY PROGRAM! GREAT JOB Aaron, and who cares!

Sorry bishop nation said:

Now the bishop nation is gonna take out their anger on Steve 4 no updates? No worries Steve and Fred, bishop nation will be angry but it's not ur fault. Great Job Steve and Fred.

New to Amat said:

I am amazed at how quickly all the amat haters come out to hate on us for 1 loss.. Hey you said it yourself.. "when they start playing real teams".. So we all know your say that ALL the local teams are not REAL teams... hummm..... that must mean that YOUR team is not a real team... cause we all know you are not from AMAT... Itsgood to know.. that AMAT is the only REAL team locally.... THATS RIGHT... AMAT IS THE ONLY REAL TEAM PLAYING REAL SCHOOLS... hey you said it yourself...

wheres Smallnuts now? said:

What happened to Walnut? I thought they were this bada$$ team that was gonna nuke everyone on their road to the playoffs? Sorry a$$ light blue wearing mules is what they tunred out to be! Karma baby!!!

SORRY said:

EVERYBODY LISTEN UP!! GO TO MIGUEL MELENDEZ BLOG AND HE HAS ALL TONIGHTS SCORES!

FRED AND STEVE LIKE TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN SUSPENSE!

COME ON, GET IT RIGHT! STILL CAN'T GET IT RIGHT!

BOTTOM LINE SORRY REPORTING AND WHERE IS STEVE'S UPDATES GO??

SGV Athlete said:

To all the haters that are going to come on here and start to trash talk AMAT, save it. Any one of you couldn't hold the jockstrap of any AMAT player, past or present. We already destroyed the valley, its time for real football.

Tough loss for the Lancers though. AMAT has had an amazing season so far, but we all knew it was going to be really tough in the Serra League. Crespi coming into this game was without a doubt the best 4-4 team in the state. Their record did and does NOT reflect their talent level. Congrats to them.

As far as AMAT goes, its just time to regroup and focus on Notre Dame. This is another great team in the STATE and is going to be a big challenge. I believe that AMAT has already solidified a playoff berth with wins over St. Bonnies and Loyola, but with there being only one wildcard berth, the Lancers cannot let their destiny lay in the hands of someone else.

Good Luck AMAT, get ready for Notre Dame and give'em hell...

Sorry bishop nation said:

bishop Lost ... it doesn't get any better. Get ready 4 the excuses.

Kimbo Slice (of reality) said:

Glendora 28
Chino 10 over in the 2nd quarter!
Second and third string played entire second half.

South Hills Dawgs! said:

I want Charter Oak NOW! Keep rolling boys because C.O. is primed for an a$$ whooping this year from us Dawgs! There is no stopping this machine! Bring it!

Aaron said:

Good to see Bonita get the win tonight. Throttled Wilson pretty bad. Have to say little Schreiman from Wilson is a player, man did he take a beating.

Offensive line played well but there were some plays where I was scratching my head. Anyone know why Kenny Calvin and Deron Holmes didn't play? Pendleton had another good game but still we have bunch a bunch of guys out. Defense played great, give it up to the JV linemen and backers for not allowing a score and forcing a fumble. Hope to see Yepez back next week and for the Bearcats to keep it rolling. Play offs, does anyone know the score of Bishop Amat game, I saw the blog post on the LA Times 34-18 Crespi. Also the score for the Diamond Ranch-Los Altos game?

Again good win for the Bearcats and all the guys that got some time tonight you'll need it for the playoffs.

GO BEARCATS

amat update said:

steve!!!! what happened to the play by play

no playoffs for Bishop this year--- HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA said:

ha amat will not be making the the playoffs this year. They will get b!ithced slapped by a Notre Dame. Too bad Loyola didnt have Barr because he would have run all over that weak A$$ defense. The true amat comes out when they start playing real teams. to bad St bonavetre suck this year and that win was a fluk. ha amat = losers.

HEY STEVE said:

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO STEVE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE UPDATES??? PUT THE BURGER DOWN AND GIVE US AN UPDATED SCORE! YOUR SYSTEM BITES? AND I'M BETTER OFF READING THE PAPER! AMAT SCORE PLEASE! DAM...

New to Amat said:

win or lose amat will still shine... Come on WE ARE AMAT... We win and lose with pride and we will keep our heads up.. Dont let those fools trash talk us... We know who were are and what we stand for.

randy said:

whoops...it was Damien 52-3....my bad

randy said:

Sooooooo....Diamond Bar DID in fact score first tonight, a short FG after the old halfback option pass to get them within range......but ah....well....that was about it for the highlights.....they have 8 underclassmen on that starting defense, they played the whole game, gave up 36 first half points,....the offense didnt help much with 3 first qtr turnovers....it was tuff to watch....Gano did a classy thing by just having his qb go to one knee on 3rd and goal from 2 yard with 2 min to go....then again he took a knee on 4th down...but DB gave up a safety to etch the final score 52-6......whatta friggin nite!

AMAT said:

ARE WE STILL SHINING? PLEASE STEVE, TELL EVERYBODY WERE STILL SHINING, PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE! I NEED TO SHINE...

THEHenry said:

i hope we can continue with the nogales/rowland rivalry games even after they switch leagues. obviously plan b (which allows for rowland to join the valle vista was to keep that intact) but since it was not considered.. lets hope both schools continue to schedule each other.. you cannot get anymore natural rivalry than this... inglewood/morningside...usc/ucla... nogales/rowland
get the picture?

AmatLancers said:

We didn't lose we ran out of time you idiot.

amat said:

anyone know the ND/Loyola score?

look out said:

LA PUENTE, WARRIOR NATION (SUCK)!

Please do us all a favor and don't come on here tooting your BULL HORN, because winning small schools THAT don't mean crap! YOU'LL LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND AND LOOK WHO YOU'LL BE PAIRING UP WITH? UUUUHHH, A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM, WITH REAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS!

LA PUENTE WILL CHONK!

billyb said:

What the _ _ _ _ was that? Covina is up 7-0, about1:30 left in the game. They take a safety on purpose to make the score 7-2, w/ 1:24 and kicking from their own 20. Thank god Pomona got a clipping penalty on the return, or they would have had the ball on the 45 going in. Covina lucky to win. How dumb can a coaching staff be? If this is any indication of the Colts season heads should role.

vikequeens said:

NV VIKES;

WERE YOU JOKING,BECAUSE YOUR STATEMENT IS RETARDED! AFTER LOSING TO GANESHA, YOUR GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT LIKE THAT. YOUR SEASON IS OVER, AND SO SHOULD YOUR BLOGGING CAREER! WHAT A JOKE...

Sorry bishop nation said:

bishop Sucks!!! oh yeah!!!

Poo tangs said:

Walnut is horrible. 5-0 at one time. Nice way to keep your job coach, but come the real meaningful games that count you suc-. Walnut same o same o......Capital L..........LOSERS EVERY YEAR. Leonard Rhodes took the road of a loser by playing for Walnut. Cooper is Jinx.

scores please said:

Anyone know the Glendora vs Chino score?

WHOOOOHOOOOOOO! said:

LANCERS STORM BACK!

21-18 THE BAD GUYS ARE STILL WINNING BUT DAYYYYYYUUUUUM!!!!!!


GO!!!!!!!

BIG!!!!!!!

BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amat said:

Hellooooooooooo, were not shining??? what's happening??? please win tonight, so i DON'T HAVE TO READ HOW AMAT SUCKS... PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WIN... PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Sorry bishop nation said:

Go Crespi!!!!

Anderson. 3y run, 21-10,257,2nd

Crespi 21-3 on Bennett 56 y pass, 518 lef in 1st half

Insider said:

Crespi-21
Bishop Amat-10 In 2nd

WHAT THE H@LL said:

All I got to say to Walnuts insider is, PLEASE DON'T TALK ABOUT WALNUT ANYMORE (PLEASE)!

Insider said:

Correction!
Crespi-21
Bishop Amat-3 In 2nd

amat?? said:

AMAT IS NOT SHINING??? WHAT IS HAPPENING??? COME ON MEN THAT WEAR BLUE.

u know what would suck... said:

being an 8-2 third place team and having to play a leauge winner in the pac 5 playoffs

2nd Q, 919: BA: Ragsdale 23 FG, crespi 14-3

Insider said:

Crespi-14
Bishop Amat-3 In 2nd Qrt.

Insider said:

Crespi-14
Bishop Amat-0 End of 1st

122, 1st: Bryan Bennett 27y TD pass, 14-0, Crespi

122, 1st: Bryan Bennett 27y TD pass, 14-0, Crespi

Crespi 7-0, 902 on first drive..Rasheed Johnson 10y run

Shoot the music guy said:

The guy that plays the pre game music at Sierra Vista sure as hell' isn't theneighborhoods friend
the crap before the pregame was so loud you couldn't hear yourself on the field
dude you suck!

Boo Hoo said:

Think about it is a hyprocite poster and a normal Amat fan.

Think about it said:

Whatever - you my friend are FLAT OUT WRONG!!!! Amat is always happy to talk about our teams and at any level! Don't let one poster speak for all or we will all have to take your famous posters words as gospel? And I think you know of whom I speak?

Think about it??? said:

SGV Football- I just don't see it. The Amat team is a very good team and as our Varsity team illustrates, size doesn't always dictate the winner. Besides I know you would NEVER give Amat even the slightest edge over c.o. in any discussion. Admit it. You will always give the edge to c.o. "I ain't mad at cha" but we all know where your heart truely lies, (c.o.). But it's all good, I'd like to see that game too. I think it would be good, but Amat would win even if just by an edge ;)

jcaz said:

Bring Back Coach Parker

I’ll agree with allot of what your putting out there, but I have to remind you that Amt isn’t necessarily the better team out on the field. Keep in mind that the Freshmen are now playing against teams that are in the Serra league, and not against inferior talent that has been the case up until now.

I did not see the Freshman game against Loyola, but I did see yesterdays game, and BTW I try to go to all the home football games on Thursdays over at Kiefer. So what I will say pertains to only what I have seen this year.

The Amt Freshmen are an awesome team, but they may have gotten beat by a better Crespi team yesterday. There is no shame in that.

Anyway, they were simply out played. Especially at the end of the game. However, that game could have gone either way. I that field goal had been made towards the end, then it may very well have been a far different out come. Having said that, you don’t just let your opponents score two touchdowns in the final, what, 5 minutes of the game, especially when your trying to play catch up to them.

Again, this is superior talent now that we are facing these kids will some day be all CIF and be written about in the LA times. Were in the big leagues now so a loss against this type of talent can certainly happen

We just got some bad breaks yesterday, and we didn’t get the right plays to go our way, but if we had, then perhaps we would both be sitting here saying what an awesome freshman team we still have, and what a great coaching staff Amat has at the freshmen level right ?

Off to Crespi !!!

Lets win one tonight.....

Whatever said:

NEW TO AMAT & THINK ABOUT IT...
As I recall a few weeks ago a Spartan was talking up the current JV Damien team, and all the BA'ers could say was "Who cares... it's all about Varsity". Funny how things change. You ripped the Spartans for being proud of their younger teams, but it's okay for you to do so.
Hmmmmm... guess what ever way the wind blows at AMAT is the way of the day.

PS - Live Long Sparta! And we're rooting for you tonite, Ayala!

smallcitymc said:

Friends,

Sure the coaching could be better, but It's much adieu about nothing. With the varsity coaching staff Amat has in place, the players will develop into a formidable force. Your seeing that now with a varsity team that wasn't supposed to be performing anywhere near the level they are playing at.

SGV FOOTBALL said:

Hey I have seen both teams CO and BA frosh teams play. I have family and friends on both teams, so you can only imagine how my house is divided on Thursdays and Fridays. I will have to say they are two big squads with 50 + players each, bishop has a couple more kids though. No doubt I see the CO kids going toe to toe and even beating the BA. Just wanted to add to all the frosh talk going on.

Verti Years Player said:

Never liked Koelle, Adamek, Marquez and for that matter Chewie as coaches. They are Amat former players and have Amats best intrest at heart but they could not coach their way out of a paper bag. Under Verti our team and athletes suffered and we were dealt a shyttie hand for those two years. I am sure they bleed Bishop Amat but that does not make them good coaches. From Freshman to Varsity all they did was yell the hell out of us with scare tactics of sitting us on the bench. Never taught us a thing.

Think about it???? said:

Boo Hoo - MAYBE....you should care about your own freshman squad too. Then MAYBE you would have a PROGRAM that garnishes as much attention as AMAT's does???? Then MAYBE someone would actually give a crap about your school and get on the blog and make assinine comments about what your sorry a$$ fans whine about! The fact that we DO CARE about our freshman squad AND JV squad is a testament to not only the type of PROGRAM we have a Bishop Amat but also to the INTREST, LOYALTY and INVOLVEMENT we FANS AND PARENTS have in OUR PROGRAM!!!!
Film crew and New - I think the Crespi coaches did their homework. They knew exactly what they were going to do against us and they did it ALL NIGHT LONG. We need to get better at making game time adjustments, plain and simple. Our offense remains stagnant. You cannot run without passing and you can't pass without running. You have to be able to do a little of both. It's only freshman ball and I still like what I see for the years to come? Where was #6? I saw 2, 3, 4, 5 and 9 but no 6???

NV Vikes said:

Northview will shock the valley by beating San Dimas tonight!!

New to Amat said:

FYI Boo Hoo,
Only Amat fans have the heart to care about all of the players and all of the games... See when you got teams that shine (freshman, JV, and Varsity) then people will talk.. Sorry you only have your losers

Boo Hoo said:

Only Amat fans can whine about a freshman game.

New to Amat said:

I have to say that I am not familar with coach Barker since as the name implies, I am new to amat and i dont know if bringing him back is the answer but i do know that the freshman game on Thursday was a tough game to watch. There were many mistakes by both the boys and by the coaching. I have to say that what "film crew09" said regard the fact that our score may have not made a difference cause they came back to score and so they would of won anyways... im not sure that is the entire truth, in all fairness, we are as a whole a much better team with better players, but when you play a team who passes and all your doing is running the ball, there is no comparison. Passing makes touchdowns faster than just running the ball. Our running game is awesome, but we need to develop a better passing game cause we all know that passes will be caught and touchdowns will be scored, we just need to be able to do that too. We had receivers who were wide open and still couldnt complete the passes. They had receivers cover and they were still able to catch. We really need to work on our passing game... Now please dont get all upset, its just my view... and no my son is not a receiver.

film crew09 Author Profile Page said:

Bring back coach parker, stop being a cry baby!!! i dont know that coach or watch the amat games, but reading your post!! wow! like i said, stop crying.....everyone seems to be an offense and defence of play caller from the stands!! it seems to me even if they would have got the 1st down and scored, the other team scored anyways after that!! so they still would have lost. Is your son on the B team??? and not getting enough PT??? at any rate, stop being a baby and let the coaches do there job....Obviously if they would be winning games your mouth would be shut!!! And its freshman just let tham play!!!

Freshman parent clam down said:

Defense wins championships. Who has been calling the defense. They scored in five plays??

We all liked Parker but his record spoke for itself many medicore years with a great year in between. Freshman team won six games last year. This year they have a chance at 8. Let's do it next week!

And you can't be too inexperienced to coach the freshman team. That's where you get the experience.

damien v. dbar said:

Damien RB: Phillip Sainz

car yds TDs AVG.
160 954 6 5.96


Sainz going for 150+ tonight with a couple of touchdowns. kid is playing very well and is up against a weak D-Bar defense

Bring Back Coach Parker said:

The Amat's frosh team was way better than Loyola and Crespi and yet we lose to them. GO FIGURE? We simply got outcoached by both those teams. Koelle is very young and too inexperienced. I think Parker would have done a better job with this very talented freshman team.

Why am I saying this? Well first of all we don't ever hit in practice, we don't practice field goal kicks and PAT's, the 60 kids who stand on the sidelines are bored just standing doing nothing while the A team practices, our A offense goes against B defense, our A defense goes against B offense, thus not getting any pressure or competition etc etc etc.

We were lined up on our 5 yard line with the score at 14-17 in the 4th QTR, poised to score and take the lead and we get hit with back to back procedure calls. 4 and 15 and we elect to kick a field goal. HELLO ....A FIELD GOAL???? LET'S GO FOR A FIRST DOWN OR A TD, WE DON'T HAVE A KICKING GAME REMEMBER???? Let alone that we don't even kick in practice. The kick sails wide left, NO DUH? Crespi takes possessions and scores 5 plays later 24-14. GAME OVER!

We were in the red zone twice during the 4th QTR and yet both times we came out empty. BAD PLAY CALLING? OUTCOACHED? INEXPERIENCE? BRING BACK PARKER!!!!

COChargerfan said:

SGV FOOTBALL...and Burbank still has to play Burroughs next week so they may have two losses in league. And Burroughs gets Crescenta Valley tonight which is a game that could go either way. If two of the top three Pacific League teams have two league losses each than I don't see how two teams from that league will garner the #3 and #4 seeds.

tcbruin Author Profile Page said:

New to Amat,

What was that frosh score?

2 losses in league. Pre-league they were undefeated.

What has happened the past 2 games to the frosh team? Are they playing better teams, being out coached?

New to Amat said:

Amat will shine tonight. Good luck and bring home the win. After yesterdays loss by the freshman we need to prove that we are the best!
Go Lancers!

growsomenuts said:

Walnut is done tonite. So Hills romps them in a ugly way. Playing pansy teams in non league gets your a-- kicked tonite. Huskies Real big tonite.

SH-49
Walnut 12

SGV FOOTBALL said:

Wow Pasadena a 5-4 team put up 45 on an unbeaten Burbank ! All of a sudden Burbank doesn't look like they will be trouble in playoffs. Now definitely it will be CO Vs. SH in the finals.

Lance R said:

Bishop Amat has been surprising teams and all of us week in and week out, why would that change? Amat handles the road trip and Crespi with ease and wins another one tonite. Some say it will be close, I believe Amat wins it going away.

ALL BLUE said:

Fred'
Where are your records, I think you are losing ground to Steve. That's cool, keep betting against AMAT. Losing the football pool to Steve, means he will be your boss next year!

ON BLUE!!!

SPARTAN DAD said:

Amat,
Good luck tonight Lancers, represent like You always do. You have alot of people behind you in the SGV, more than you think. Don't listen to the negativity, keep bangin & good things are gonna happen. Good luck JOEAMAT & AMAT73.

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