Hard to park legally on Pasadena streets overnight

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Periodically I get angry emails from people who claim they've been unfairly targeted by the city's parking ticket contractor- there was enough concern on the issue, actually, for the Council to call for a review of the contract. Ultimately they renewed it.

Today, in a related story, one of our reporters Nathan McIntire, told me a painful story about his attempts to park on the streets of Pasadena legally overnight.

The city's overnight parking policy, like many area cities, bars people from parking without an expensive permit. The logic? I am not sure, other than that it brings in revenue.

But apparently, not only are the permits expensive, they are also hard to obtain- McIntire, who recently moved back to Pasadena into an apartment with a roommate that has just one parking spot, tried to get one and was unable to because his vehicle registration does not have a Pasadena address on it. A copy of a bill mailed to his new residence was apparently not sufficient for the city.

Now, he has a problem: his car is registered in his father's name. So to get the paperwork in proper order for the city of Pasadena, he would have to buy the car from his father, and register the new address. In the mean time, McIntire is paying for an expensive temporary parking permit.

Is this really a necessary demand for the city of Pasadena to make? Do they really need this information simply to allow someone to park on the streets overnight? After all, we do have a sizable student population in this town- many of whom drive cars registered to their parents.

Just thought I would share this tale of woe- please feel free to add additional parking grievances in the comments section.

24 Comments

clean pasadena said:
I have neighbor that has permits for three junk cars he parks in front of his house. Literally junkers with plastic sheeting for windows. I guess it is all who you know.
luv pasadena said:
Why can't his roomate get the permit for parking on the street!!
Pasadena Parking said:
Clean Pasadena, Call Code Compliance and report the cars as eyesores. As for the guy having so much problems - all he needs to do is go online at the DMV or go to AAA and have them change his address that reflects his new Pasadena address. HIs father needs to write a letter stating that he owns the car and that his son is driving it. Overnight parking is done by permit because there is not enough parking in Pasadena due to overdevelopment and many households having more than 3 cars. If everyone parked on the street at night it would be ridiculous. Many of these new developments go up and they only give one parking space.
Pasadena Parking said:
Clean Pasadena, Call Code Compliance and report the cars as eyesores. As for the guy having so much problems - all he needs to do is go online at the DMV or go to AAA and have them change his address that reflects his new Pasadena address. HIs father needs to write a letter stating that he owns the car and that his son is driving it. Overnight parking is done by permit because there is not enough parking in Pasadena due to overdevelopment and many households having more than 3 cars. If everyone parked on the street at night it would be ridiculous. Many of these new developments go up and they only give one parking space.
Isaac Garcia said:
Rules are rules. I don't like the parking permits rules either, but they are the rules (primarily b/c Pasadena is overdeveloped and there isn't adequate parking). I have to pay an annual business license fee to the city of Pasadena who provides me with ZERO value - i can complain all I want - but those are the rules. There are bigger topics for us to be worried about than overnight parking permits (especially when there is an easy solution to simply changing an address as "Pasadena Parking" suggested).
Dan said:
The question of there being no room to park on the streets is highly dependent on where you live. My street in the eastern part of the city, for example, has plenty of extra parking. No argument that there are bigger issues for us to pay attention to... doesn't mean that we can't focus in on a smaller issue on this blog now and again.
Parking Pasadena said:
I have called, and the next day he has his junkers out on the street again.
Clean Pasadena said:
Above post is mine responding to Parking Pasadena, sorry for any confusion.
Roger Krost said:
Here's my question to "Pasadena Parking": if there's not enough on-street parking in Pasadena, how does paying for the permit make more magically appear ? The fact is there is plenty of street parking available in MOST parts of Pasadena. In fact, in the most heavily congested areas of Pasadena (such as the Madison Ave between California and Cordove) the overnight parking restriction are waived. So how does that help eliminate congestion ? Additionally, if you have to pay - why make the process so onerous? So long as the vehicle is registered in California they should issue a permit. Do you (or does the City of Pasadena) think that Pasadena street parking is so attractive and so valuable that people are bringing their cars here just to park at night... C'mon... And I ABSOLUTELY agree with Isaac about the worthless City Business License. I pay approximately $700 a year and own a small construction company which does no business in Pasadena. I pay the same rate as Parsons but since I run my business out of a residential address I am forbidden to have trucks or more than a few employees (regardless of the fact that none of this stuff happens at the residential address). But I disagree that the parking is a minor issue. Since I am also a property manager I know first hand how much aggravation this causes my tenants. Again - they are happy to pay the permit fee but since some of them are students with cars registered to their home addresses (read: lower insurance), or are provided with business vehicles by their employers (try getting those registered to your home address) the permit process is extremely difficult. My family has lived in "Madison Heights" for almost 100 years, and I love Pasadena - but how about addressing the quality of life issues instead and make the parking permits a little easier to get...
Pasadena Parking said:
Roger, I understand your angst. However there is not enough parking in Pasadena period. How would you feel if you could not parking in front of your house in case you live in a condo because the residents and their guests are using the parking space in front of your house? Certain streets are exempt from overnight parking - certain areas of town are "preferential parking" areas and parking is strictly for resident parking only. I live by PCC and if I want to come home on my lunch hour and park in front of my house - forget it. Why? because the students of PCC don't and can't buy parking passes so they are utilizing the side streets. I have run out of room so I will post again.
Pasadena Parking said:
Roger, I also believe that the process should be revamped and done online. Unfortunately as with most government offices there are policies and procedures that are followed and they take up a lot of time and are aggrevating to say the least - so I totally agree with you on that. However - there is not ample parking in Pasadena - possibly the areas that you live in - but because of economic conditions we have several families living in the same house and when there are more than 4 cars - it tends to be very problematic. This is just my opinion - but this is a result of the overbuilding of Pasadena - plain and simple.
Roger said:
You're making my point for me, Pasadena Parking... My point is that if the permits were easier to obtain, more people would get them and Pasadena could manage the situation more easily. Instead, they are forcing people into the "temporary parking permit" scam. This solution is $3 per night (and used to be free with a phone call). As for living next to PCC, I understand the issue, and the City should have done more to mitigate the problem (or PCC should provide more affordable and obtainable parking), but that doesn't change the fact that there's a TON of street parking available in MOST of Pasadena. I live off South Lake and there's plenty here. I DO agree with you that the City should have moved to cut development a long time ago, since the Pasadena I grew up in is long gone and the reasons people moved here back in the day have pretty much evaporated. If you want to see aggressive development control - look up the cost to Santa Barbara which is still a pretty livable community, or Carmel. Or do like I do more and more - leave the car at home (if you can find a place to park it) and ride a bike!
Just-Rog said:
Years ago I had a permit to park on a Pasadena street in front of my house. I was ticketed anyway even though my sticker was clearly in plain view on my windshield. I still had to pay the fine before getting a court date and seeing a judge to dismiss the charges. After all was said and done, I had to wait weeks before a refund was sent out in the mail. A year later the exact same thing happened all over again. The City charges for a permit to park, but in my case they charged me for continual harassment.
Pasadena Parking said:
Roger - I was born and raised here in Pasadena and long for the good old days. I don't even recognize the place anymore. To clarify what I am trying to say about Pasadena not having enough parking ... do you know how many people scream that they don't want parking in their neighborhoods? That is how we have restriced parking. Many of the areas off of South Lake are preferential parking neighborhoods due to Poly and Cal Tech. Everyone wants a parking space - but it better not be in front of your house if you want to park there! Just-Rog - Parking Enforcement is horrible. Fire the service and put it in the hands of Pasadena police department. why did we reinstate the contract of the enforcement business when there were so many complaints???
Clean Pasadena said:
How about free permits for homeowners to park in front of their own homes.
Marg Finn said:
I also don't understand how the parking violations bureau can be so unreasonable. I had to park my car on the street because work was being done to my house and the construction company need to put a bin in my parking space. I bought a permit, put it in my window, however I forgot to put my plate number on it. The permit is a teeny weeny piece of paper, already hard to read. Woke the next morning with a citation on my window. I spent the money, did what I was supposed to do, thereafter requested a reconsideration, but was denied... Will be going to fight this ridiculous ticket fee out of principle. There is definitely something wrong with the system in total.
Upset tax payer said:
Not sure if anyone knows this or not. I live on Lincoln close to westgate. I was told that the sign on Lincoln and Howard which is a longggggggggggggggg stretch from my house to there applied for the whole block of Lincoln. I think this is crazy but hey nobody cares what we think, pasadena just wants to keep getting rich off of you and me.
John said:
My situation is pretty bad also..I had the same issue with getting a permit because I had my dads vehicle. Now that I have one it does me no good. Every morning at 6am I have to get up and move my car to a road 1 block away. Then move it back again sometime before 2AM. Yet..they wont give me a permit for the road that is 1 block away so I wouldn't ever have to move my car when there is almost always space available.
Rick Dougherty said:
I am from Idaho and stayed overnight at my sisters house on Magnolia Ave near California Blvd. I got a $39.50 ticket for illegally parking overnight. There was plenty of parking on her street and no signs about overnight parking. The only sign was "2 hour limit 9AM - 6PM". I did not drive around town to find signs about parking code. Why would I? Wouldn't a warning be appropriate for out-of-town guest?
I hate Pasadena said:
I received a bogus parking citation in Pasadena. The sign indicated "ONE HOUR PARKING". After 50 minutes I moved my car 100-200 feet down the street, but I received a citation anyway. I later found that the city's ordinance allows a car to be parked no more than one hour on the ENTIRE BLOCK. I fought with the city about this and said that their street sign is misleading, but of course I got nowhere. Pasadena SUCKS and I encourage everyone to avoid that city until it cleans up its act and stops ripping off people. City Manager and Mayor, I hope you're reading this. PASADENA SUCKS!
Annissa Lee said:
I recently parked overnight, while going to my boyfriend's house in Pasadena. The street had plenty of parking and I checked all visible signage. There were NO signs that said that parking was by permit only or illegal from 2-6 am. I would happily have obtained parking elsewhere had I been able to find that information. There are plenty of parking signs on the street along with meters. There is not one piece of information to help a person understand what they are getting into. I live in Los Angeles, we have plenty of parking issues here, however (for the most part) we do have signs that express when you can and cannot park. I would have bought a permit had I known you needed one to avoid a ticket. It seems to me that the this is entrapment and the city is not giving anyone a fair shake. I sent in a letter and they just sent back a form letter (they must send out a lot) that there are signs posted off the freeway exits and lights. I exit the freeway in Pasadena several times a week and have NEVER seen that. Nor would I think that I should look on the Freeway exit or light post for parking instructions while I am driving. Generally we look at the parking signs posted on the street for that. With all the tourism Pasadena gets it seems pretty dirty that they would have to resort to these kind of tactics for revenue. Shame on you!
Roo said:
Same situation as Annissa. Utterly ridiculous. The rule has been in place for 50 years, and you're telling me you can't put the rule on your standard meter sticker? It's meant to be misleading in order to generate revenue. I plan to ignore it. If they want to recover the $40, they're gonna have to spend 10x as much in admin to place a hold on my car registration. In the meantime, I will talk bad about the city and avoid spending my dollars there.
carol said:
This is ridiculous. We parked in front of the house that my son is renting. We were traveling from NC and did not think to look for parking signs at the freeway exits!! THere were NO signs posted near the curbs as you would normally see in other cities. We law abiding citizens and would have readily parked in a different location if we thought we were in the wrong. I have contested the ticket but was sent a pat response. I feel this is wrong. They need to consider that out of town guests may not be aware of the parking rules. After all....we bring in alot of revenue to Pasadena...especially having a student there! It would be nice to atleast waive the first offense!
Tano said:
It is sad that even homeowners who park their car outside, for any numerous reasons, wake up the next morning to see an expensive ticket on their windshield. If you thought Pasadena was ungrateful to out-of-towners, just wait till you move to Pasadena and you get a ticket right in front of your house. Also those signs that state no overnight parking, half the time are blocked by the big mass transit busses, i.e. Allen Ave exit from the 210 west freeway, etc..

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