State looks at Council's TofR freebies

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Former Star-News star reporter Gary Scott points us in his blog to the California Fair Political Practices Commission, which has set its eyes on the free Rose Parade and Rose Bowl tickets Pasadena City Council members get each year.

Turns out that so far the FPPC, the state's political ethics watchdog, has been treating the tickets council members dole out to friends and supporters as having "no value." That is because they are technically "tickets to a nonprofit or political fundraiser."

Apparently the FPPC is now considering treating such tickets at "face value of the ticket 

less any amount of the ticket price that is indicated as a donation to the nonprofit or, in the 

alternative, the fair market value of any food, beverage, and entertainment provided to the 

individual."


So what does that really mean for Council members? According to the FPPC's own investigation when they last examined this issue in 2004, Mayor Bill Bogaard gets about 150 to 230 Rose Parade grandstand tickets from the Tournament of Roses each year, while individual council members get about 120 a piece. Sharp Seating, the Rose Parade's official grandstand seating provider, is currently selling tickets for anywhere between $42 and $85 a seat. So at the state's current gift limit of $390 for elected officials, even at the lower end of the pricing range an FPPC rule change would end up cutting the mayor and council's maximum allotment to a measly nine tickets each.


The Rose Bowl tix are, of course, a totally different story. According to the FPPC, the 2005 face value price for a ticket to the big game was $125, which would reduce the four free tickets council members were receiving at that time to three if the state's gift limit were applied. But who the heck gets Rose Bowl tickets at face value? Stubhub.com is already selling tickets to next year's game -- at a range of between $299 and $599.  That means that if the FPPC changes the rules, Council members would get no more than one freebie -- and it better not be on the 50-yard line.


Furthermore they would have to report nearly all the tickets on their yearly economic interest forms (Form 700), because state law requires any gift valued over $50 to be listed. 


Suffice it to say that, if the rules change, there are gonna be a whole lot of council friends/family/contributors watching America's favorite parade and game with the rest of us.... on TV, unless they want to camp out overnight on Colorado for a good seat.


FPPC is requesting public comment on the issue at blenkeit@fppc.ca.gov. or   

by telephone at (916) 327-2020




11 Comments

AP said:
So - wait - City Council members won't be able to hook people up and will have to watch the parade and game on TV with the rest of us? OH NOES!!!
Anonymous said:
42$ X 120 is 5040, How can that not be disclosed?
Anonymous said:
Where do you think that the Ticket Brokers get the Game and Parade Tickets from? They get them from the T of R members and from Pasadena City Hall folks. And the brokers pay good money for the them too! Years ago the Daily News got the seat numbers for the Super Bowl seats given to the City Council and went to the game and asked folks where they got their tickets from (these tickets were selling for thousands of dollars.) It was big scandal because the late Mayor Lorett Thomspon Glickman had pocketed a small fortune with the tickets the NFL had made available to the City. Councilmembers now have to account for their distribution but get around it by putting extended family members down as recipeients of the choice seats that are actually sold to the ticket brokers and then try to cover themselves by giving the end zone seats to their constiutents. T of R members who get choice tickets are in on the racket too. It is all a big scam they are racking in a small fortune in tax free income year in and year out. The amount varies depending on who is playing in the Rose Bowl game. When is the Star News going to do an investigative piece on this scandal?
Anonymous said:
It is not tax free income it is unreported taxable income. The IRS ought to come in and have a look around. To do an investigative piece the starnews would need a forensic accountant. The Tournament has its own open relations with the brokers and feeds them a lot of tickets every year above board. That should be the start and end of the state review. This is a money pot, not a charitable gift. Change the rules.
Knowing this casts some interesting light on past behavior.
Please add a large, sarcastic question mark after my last comment. What a shock! (again eye-roll) Part of the councils job is to act as ambassadors to this city on both of those important iconic events for Pasadena.
This is what should be done: Give them twice the amount of comps to those events and each the use of a Maserati with a gigantic rose painted on the side, eggroll and fortune cookie.
Fred said:
Anonymous #1: The reason they currently don't have to report these tickets on their Form 700s is because they technically have "no value" under FPPC rules, regardless of what the tickets are actually selling for in the open market. The rule change will require them to report the (much smaller) amount of tickets they do end up getting. So if the rule change goes through (in mid-June) an investigative piece would be a moot point, because the free tix will basically stop flowing.
AP said:
I like the Maserati idea.
Anonymous said:
Madison loves to flaunt the Rose Bowl tickets around his millionaire law partners and clients. Check into his annual booking of the Rose bowl for the Quinn Emmanuel summer party. Steve, do yourself and the city a favor, enjoy the last 3 years of your term and fade into the sunset. 12 years is enough. You have a busy law practice that has made you wealthy, two young sons that need their father and a love interest. Enjoy your new life and purge the thought of running for Mayor in 2011. You don't have the time to commit, your sons don't deserve to read the ink that will be thrown at you if you run and life is too short not to enjoy it. You will be entering a political bloodbath that you really don't need.
Rex said:
I would concur with the above post in that Pasadena would be better served by anyone other than Steve Madison as Mayor. He misses too many important council meetings and I don't see how he would have the time to be an effective Mayor as Bill Bogaard is. Haderlein or Holden possibly but never Madison.

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