Chamber does D

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Chamber pres Paul Little indicates the "Internet tax" argument from Measure D opponent Martin Truitt was very convincing. Just not as intended:

"Many Pasadena retailers see imposition of a tax on Internet-based purchases as a leveling of the retail playing field, since online sales transactions as a rule are not taxed but local sales are subject to state and local levies. A book seller in Pasadena, for example, is at a market disadvantage compared to Amazon which can sell the same item yet charge 8.5% less because the online transaction is not subject to California or Los Angeles County sales taxes. Likewise, a local music store may feel that taxing downloads is akin to imposing the same tax burden on Internet transactions that their customers currently pay for cds purchased over the counter."

"The decision to subject Internet sales to taxation is one that will be made by the Federal government, not local jurisdictions, regardless of passage of Measure D."

He does think Martin is incredible though, as per the full release which follows:

PASADENA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ANNOUNCES SUPPORT FOR EXTENTION OF UTILITY USER TAX

Board votes to support Pasadena's Measure D citing confidence in
City government and support for existing levels of service

PASADENA, CA – Bill Podley, Chair of the Board of the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce and Civic Association, today announced that the business organization's Board of Directors voted overwhelmingly to endorse passage of Pasadena's Measure D, the extension of the city's Utility User Tax. "After hearing presentations from both the supporters and opponents of Measure D, our Board wanted to voice its support for continuation of the Utility User Tax," Mr. Podley said in announcing the decision. "The Board feels confident in the leadership of the City. We also have serious concerns about potential impacts on the quality of life in our city should the measure fail at the polls in February."

Measure D will continue the existing Utility User Tax in the City of Pasadena at the current tax rate. Passage of Measure D will ensure the City of Pasadena continues to collect approximately $10 million per year in General Fund revenues that result from the telephone portion of the tax. City leaders have repeatedly asserted that the tax is only an extension of the existing levies and won't extend into other areas, such as Internet use or downloads. Measure D is on the ballot for the February 5, 2008, primary election. "The prosperity of our business community is always at risk from competition and economic forces outside our control," Mr. Podley said. "Our board is very concerned that the services that may be impacted should the City be forced to absorb the loss of $10 million in General Fund revenue. That shortfall could significantly impact the business climate in Pasadena."

In December, the Chamber Board had a presentation from city staff on the history, collection and uses of the Utility User Tax. Mayor Bill Bogaard and Councilman Sid Tyler (District 7) also attended the meeting to ask the Chamber to publicly support passage of Measure D. In January, Martin Truitt spoke to the Chamber's Executive Committee and presented the opposition case that the tax will be extended to Internet use. Mr. Truitt also explained that opponents feel the City has more than enough money in reserves to cover any loss that would result for not being able to collect the UUT.

"It ultimately came down to credibility," said Paul Little, CEO and President of the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce. "Mayor Bogaard and Sid Tyler made a convincing case that the City relies on UUT revenues to ensure delivery of many of the services those in our city -- businesses and residents alike -- expect to maintain the quality of life and competitive business environment in Pasadena. We were also impressed that the proponents didn't present a 'doom and gloom' scenario of unsafe streets and fewer firefighters, but honestly told us budget decisions should Measure D fail will likely protect safety initiatives already in place in our city."

"While those in the business community always have to remain conscious of the bottom line, and keep a wary eye on government initiatives that may challenge profitability and competitiveness, the Chamber Board felt strongly that continuing the existing tax is in the best interests of Pasadena residents and businesses," Mr. Little said. "The opponents' argument seems based on a scenario where the City would extend the tax to Internet use, though clearly that is precluded by existing ordinances and Proposition 218 requirements that any new taxes must be approved by the voters. We do appreciate careful budget planning by our City leaders and urge them to be conscious of the bottom line as they make funding and budgeting decisions."

"One need only look at the current budget woes of the State of California to know that no government -- local, state of federal -- is awash in cash as the opponents of Measure D claim," Mr. Little added. "The Governor's required ten percent across the board budget cut at the State level is going to have an impact on the City of Pasadena's budget and the ability of the City to provide services. Understanding that, the Chamber Board felt it was important to protect Pasadena's revenues to ensure the levels of service vital to the prosperity of our business community, especially our small businesses."

"Our Board did express some significant concerns about the present condition of the economy and discussed Council priorities and the level of spending in Pasadena before making a decision to endorse Measure D," Mr. Podley commented. "While we support continuing the present level of Utility User Tax, we sincerely urge the City Council to be conscious of current economic conditions when making decisions that may impact the City budget. We also want the Council to be mindful of the factors that make Pasadena a competitive business environment as they make their financial and budgetary choices."

The Pasadena Chamber of Commerce and Civic Association is a professional business organization. Since the earliest days of Pasadena, the Chamber has played a major role in the development of this internationally renowned city. Since 1888, when the organization was founded as the Board of Trade, the Chamber's primary purpose has been the enhancement of both the business climate and the quality of life in Pasadena. The Pasadena Chamber of Commerce serves 1500 members.

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Isaac Garcia said:
Why are people always trying to steal our money?
Citizens for Responsible Government Wayne Lusvardi, Chair (626) 524-1069 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 18, 2008 STATEMENT ON PASADENA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SUPPORT FOR MEASURE D - PASADENA'S TELEPHONE AND INTERNET TAX PASADENA, CA - On the eve of an economic recession, the Chamber Board is endorsing a poorly written telephone and Internet tax that never expires and uses one of the highest tax rates in California. Wayne Lusvardi, Chair of Citizens for Responsible Government said, "It shouldn't surprise voters that under former Pasadena City Councilmember Paul Little, the Chamber is suddenly more concerned with increasing the tax revenues of the City of Pasadena than it is in protecting the revenues of Pasadena's small business community. Voters should also be aware that the Board of the Chamber contains numerous individuals who do not live in the City of Pasadena and other individuals who have siginificant economic ties to City government." The City of Pasadena lawyers who drafted Measure D have already admitted in writing that although the Council has exempted "initial access" to the Internet, Measure D continues to authorize a tax on Internet usage in the same way that it taxes telephone usage. It is an indisputable fact that Measure D taxes Internet use. Finally, the City has annual budget surpluses far in excess of the amounts it would receive under Measure D. Therefore, Pasadena does not need Measure D to maintain existing service levels. In addition, Measure D contains no guarantees that any specific amounts would be spent for police, fire, street repair, parks or libraries.
Here is what the City's own lawyers (who wrote Measure D) have written about Measure D. "It does not include initial access to the Internet, only the subsequent use of that technology for voice or data transmission services - just as it does not tax the purchase of telephones, but does tax the use of telephones."--------- I read that written statement by the City's lawyers to Paul Little and the Chamber Board. The fact that Paul Little would subsequently claim here in this press release that Measure D is not a tax on Internet use when the City's own lawyers have admitted that it is tells you all you need to know about Paul Little and the Chamber's credibility.
anonymous said:
Since we're multi-posting here: Interesting the opponents of Measure D can't get any support for their position. It's really no surprise, since their so convinced of their own rightness they completely dismiss any other view as somehow influenced by the devil, or in this case, a former city councilman. The Chamber announcement actually presents some real arguments in favor of Measure D, while Lusvardi and Truitt are pretty empty in their rebuttal. The biggest hole in the Lusvardi/Truitt argument is the one about internet taxation. Measure D can't be about that because the federal government won't allow it. Sorry guys, you're not making a very good case against Measure D beyond the "vote against the tax" one. Anonymous because I don't want Lusvardi and Truitt calling me evil, either.
anonymous said:
If I spend $100 on cds at Canterbury Records, I have to pay $8.50 in sales tax. If I download 100 songs from iTunes I pay $99 and no tax. If I can afford $99, I can afford another $8 for some tax, sales tax, internet tax, whatever. Something I never thought about before. Chamber guy makes a good point I think about his people not being competitive against Internet sellers. Do I want Vroman's to go out of business because Amazon has free shipping and no sales tax? Something to think about. Anonymous to keep the Anti D wolves from my online door.
Anonymous said:
The City's public employee unions support it. The PUSD supports it...and now the Chamber led by a former City Councilmember supports it. People who are tools of City government support it. Big deal.
anonymous said:
Measure D YAWN!
Anonymous said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJXh5GEEUY
am staff said:
while i could be wrong in this presumption, and reserve said right TO BE, it would appear the alleged "internet tax" is simply maintaining a status quo of existing taxes that everybody sees on their phone bills - including wireless accounts, to wit: Federal Subscriber Line Charge, Rate Surcharge, State Regulatory Fee, CA High Cost Fund Surcharge both A and B, CA Teleconnect Fund Sercharge, Universal Lifeline Telephone Service Surchaarge, CA Relay Service and Communications Devices Fund, 9-1-1 Emergency System and Federal. These "taxes" are a mixture of both State and Federal and can not be altered or changed unless the law allows specific exemptions. And while it may be hard to believe, your DSL and dial up services all use the same infrastructure as the phone service - so lets take a leap in logic in that - While Pasadena has purported and represented that in fact the county of los angeles is not los angeles but in fact the County of Pasadena, I do not think Pasadena has the chi-chi's to declare that the United States of America is not the United States of America but in fact the United States of Pasadena given further facts of their inability to say Yes torture is wrong . . . but hey whadda I know except I like $ 65 GAP sweaters

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