Town Meeting II

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No lynching flier this time, but Town Meeting II went down tonight at the Jackie Robinson center with Mayor Bill Bogaard, council member Chris Holden, Jacque Robinson and City Manager Cynthia Kurtz present. Victor Gordo stopped by briefly.

I threw an update up here, story will be in Friday's paper. Posted below as well ...

PASADENA -- A prominent African American developer accused Mayor Bill Bogaard of lying at a community forum organized to air grievances about the handling of selecting a developer for the Heritage Square redevelopment project.

Although the agenda of the meeting held inside the Jackie Robinson Center was to address a variety of topics, it was Heritage Square its organizers and participants seemed most keen to discuss.

Bogaard attended the meeting with council members Chris Holden, Jacque Robinson and City Manager Cynthia Kurtz.

Most of the questions were put to the mayor about his role in the process that led to the council unanimously ending its "pre-negotiations" with developer Danny Bakewell after Bakewell's financial partner, Century Housing, pulled out of the deal.

Considerable hostility and references of racial inequity were directed at the mayor by Bakewell supporters who feel the developer was eliminated unfairly.

It was Century's departure that precipitated the need to reset the process, the mayor said, and it had been a mistake for city staff to create the impression the community panel convened to evaluate proposals had the final say in who would build the one-block site at Fair Oaks Avenue and Orange Grove Boulevard.
"The city got on the wrong track with many in the community by suggesting the RFP [Request for Proposal] process led directly to the selection," he said.

His statement that the council did not receive complete information about the financial qualifications of the developer prompted Danny Bakewell, Jr. to interrupt the discussion.

"For you to say we did not have the financial capacity is an outright lie," he said.

It was the second such meeting organized by the Pasadena-Altadena Black Coalition. A flier circulated last month for the first depicted an African American man lynched from the dome of City Hall and accusing Bogaard of racism. www.insidesocal.com/pasadenapolitics

23 Comments

Anonymous said:
its not the "jacque robinson center"
Todd said:
Yar! Corrected, thanks.
Anonymous said:
This makes me think more of the Mayor, not less, for taking on an obvious set up. In a community torn by killing and hate crime, it is a shame to be diverted in this fashion. I really get the feeling that, at this rate, we are doomed.
C said:
I am tired of reading Blog after Blog that suggests crime is "out of control", etc. Certainly any violent incident is one too many, but why doesn't anyone mention that violent crime actually droppec by nearly 24% last year and it continues to maintain at the same rate.
If it were dead white people, everyone would be saying it's "Out of control". Mark my words.
Paul (that talker guy) said:
Crime has never been out of control in Pasadena. We've been lucky to always have dedicated and effective policing. Crime stats are way, way down since Barney Melekian took over as Chief. It also matches a nationwide trend, though I think Pasadena has outpaced most of the rest of the country somewhat. Aaron's right about the color of the vicims, though it was the murder of three African-American kids that sparked the last "comprehensive" community discussion of youth violence and gangs. It was also the concern that violence could spread to other neighborhoods as well as the high profile nature of the crime. Though, again, there is no crime wave in Pasadena, but any crime is too much and any violent crime is, as well. We do have effective policing and support programs. Like other similar communities, Pasadena has real challenges, too. Race (consciously or unconsciously) meanders into any discussion involving minority contracting or significant projects involving minority developers or projects in minority communities. It was the elephant in the room throughout the Council discussion on Heritage Square. To claim, in hindsight, that the process was being revisited because Century Housing pulled out is untrue. It was being revisited previously because the Council majority was unprepared to move forward with Bakewell. Facing a hostile room is commendable. It also goes with the territory. What's the Council going to do when Bakewell resubmits with another housing developer? What happens if it's Shea Housing or someone else the City's dealt with in the past? How are they going to de-politicize the selection process? (See previous suggestions elsewhere in the blogosphere.) Paul - the real one, not the pretender(s)
AP said:
My girlfriend lives in Whittier - she says Pasadena is lucky to have the low murder rate it does compared to where she lives where drive-by shootings have been regular occurences on her street over the summer.
AP said:
Bogaard's got some grapefruits as I explained on my site today.
ONE ANGRY MEXICAN said:
No crime wave? You probably sit around at Mayfield Private School and say there is no drop out problem in Pasadena. They have assaulted 80+ people for being Mexican, on the street at night and at El Paseo on Christmas. I will bet that there are 2 or 3 unreported ass kickings for every one that is reported. But it is only wetbacks getting their asses kicked, so it is not like it matters, right? For you it is not a problem, for me it is a crisis and a crime EPIDEMIC because I, my friends and my family are all potential targets. You have a lot of gall saying how tired you are of hearing about it. Well there are a lot of us who are tired of knowing that you folks could not give less of a damn.
C said:
Like I said before, one is too many, however for the person calling him/herself "one angry mexican", there was one of these crimes in Paseo. The Star News blundered this one and the reporter was removed. Don't trust all that you read in this town. By the way, I like Mayfield. . . .
Todd said:
Mary Frances Gurton's departure from the paper had nothing to do with her coverage. And the story re: the Paseo incident was not written by her.
NO MORE MARY FRANCES GURTON!?!?! WHAT?!!!!!! Who am I going to sexually harass at the Star-News now? On to Molly Okeon.
Paul (that talker guy) said:
There's a difference between a "crime wave" - a surge in crime or a spike in certain types of crime -- and crime being out of control. I agree there have been increased crimes against Latinos and that needs to be addressed forcefully and effectively. (And incidents of that type have dropped significantly, by the way.) But, crime is not out of control in Pasadena. There is a difference. Paul - the real one, not the pretender(s)
It's always nice to have a voice of reason.
another Mex said:
Beating Mexicans for being Mexicans has decreased, great! Mexicans are still getting thrashed. for being Mexicans... that is a hate crime. if there were hate crimes against any other group, the city would rise up. it has not risen up. the police have handled the task well, but the city has not risen up. You all keep saying that it is not a problem or the Star News has screwed up or a bunch of other reasons why we should just say, oh well, don't make a fuss over it. Be quiet. Things are ok.
Paul (that talker guy) said:
And I should have been more precise in my first post. Paul
AP said:
If someone from out of town came to Pasadena - they would say "This city is so beautiful! Nothing wrong going on here." I feel sometimes our City government cares what other people think (IE: people throwing their money into this city like people who go to the Rose Parade/Rose Bowl) instead of what we think. Let's face it - Pasadena thrives on being a cultural center of the galaxy. No way you can't tell me there's not a little bit of a "screw the people who live here" mentality. Sometimes, I feel like they only care about the part of the City the Parade goes through.
rf g-r said:
Dear Another & Angry Mexicans Part of the problem is we do it to ourselves. We are invisible in Pasadena and we allow it to continue. I am the guiltiest party, I am a Latino Man who on SOM night could easily be confused with being of Mexican descent. ( I doubt the honor students would ask to see my passport, or be able to find my parent's country on a map ). And I attend way too few meetings. As distasteful as I find the prospect we may be left with the only alternative: being as loud or louder than any other interest group. Look at recent events, SOM story wasn't nearly as prominently covered as others and yet the numbers were unacceptably large. We are very lucky that crime is going down but in the near future I will be driving to the Rose bowl to take my exercise rather than walking like I had been accustomed to do.
Here is the video of the Town Hall II: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1199226759
Question: It was Danny Bakewell Jr. in the video that hurled the accusation at Mayor Bogaard. Is he a prominent developer? I thought it was his father, Sr. that was alluded to as the "prominent African-American developer"? I think it is important to consider people as individuals, responsible for their own behavior. At the City Councel meeting in April, it was Sr., in the heat of the moment, that lobbed the invective-not directed at the Mayor but more at something Madison said. No matter. I am gratified that those particular city officials attended the Town Hall II.
anonymous said:
Since the postings above, there have been 2 more killings? No crime wave? Not out of control?

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