Children in Film denies anyone who works for them was at Nadya Suleman's home today

"For some reason"

Are you for serious?

Yeah, maybe some tiny, insignificant, totally miniscule reason, like.....

FOURTEEN kids?

There is not ONE single "oops" in ALL this mess. EVERY last one of those kids were made with IVF. There was no old fashioned "woops!" in the whole shebang.

INTENTIONALLY having THAT many kids, with no dad, no funds (unless you count what she was scamming, between disability, welfare, and student loans to pay for said IVF) and NO plan other than to expect EVERYONE else to pick up the tab, and make her a STAR in the process.

Yeah, what a nitpicker, I know.
I guess I'm just a big, bad meanie.

Frustrating, isn't it?

I care; I enjoy your comments and your interest. It's nice to have someone else on here that is at least a little pro-Nadya and is interested in solutions instead of constant criticism

She's not coming even close to complying with the rules, let alone every rule.

Let's start with the basic one about having more kids than you can reasonably afford to support.

Let's continue on with pimping them out to the highest bidder. NO child should have the job of providing financial support for their parent, EVER.

Let's keep going with selling out the very privacy of those children. It is flat out WRONG for a parent to put their kids private lives out there for all the world to see. There is no excuse in the world, no reason good enough to do something so IMMORAL.

It's not holding a grudge for "some" reason. The fact that you refuse to even acknowledge that what she is doing is so off the charts wrong and harmful to her children in the long-run says a lot about you.

You're right, you are a big meanie picking on such a nice lady as Sandy

"I guess I'm just a big, bad meanie."

Uhhh I could think of a better word.

Do you have to jump on comments like this every time. Can't you just ignore them if you don't agree with them?

I care; I enjoy your comments and your interest. It's nice to have someone else on here that is at least a little pro-Nadya and is interested in solutions instead of constant criticism

I would say that is ALL most of us want here: SOLUTIONS.

But not SCOT-FREE solutions. There ARE consequences in life. She should not be coddled. She needs to be held accountable.
The criticism is what it is, but NONE of us want those kids living the way they have been or are now.

Can you imagine the way those kids will look back on this part of their lives? The chaos, the neglect? NONE of them are getting what could even REMOTELY be considered a fair amount of their mother's time.
And nannies don't count. Those kids deserve a mother that gives a rat's ass. And they DON'T have one.

Name one thing that NADA has done worth your support.

millie-h.myopenid.com replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 17, 2009 7:35 PM | Reply

You're right, you are a big meanie picking on such a nice lady as Sandy

Millie, are you seriously SO shortsighted that you think I'm "picking on" Sandy?

My vitriol is aimed at NADYA.

I was commenting on something Sandy wrote, but the sentiment was directed at Nadya.

Oh, sorry that doesn't align with your victim mentality.

I am so thankful I don't have to deal with a crybaby like you in real life.

Why such a spooky screen name?

i wonder what jodie foster would have to say about this. she started working at age 3 and supported her divorced mother and older siblings.
octorazzi: any way you can get an interview with jodie about this subject?

Because Necro has an ulterior motive. I can't identify it today, but time will tell.

I bet she would say she would never do that to her children and she would never want her private life or her children's private lives broadcast for the creepy stalkers of the world to see.

One thing, one MAJOR thing to bear in mind when comparing Nadya's children to OTHER children thrust into the media, is there are F O U R T E E N of them.
NONE of them are getting quality time with their mother.

There is a big difference between these kids and kids who AREN'T being exploited or "allowed" to "follow their dreams". The SHEER NUMBER of kids in this debacle is something unlike anybody has ever seen.

ONE mom (who is absent most of the time, and has others doing the mothering even when she IS around), NO dad. MOM is doing her damndest to cut out the "toxic" grandparents. Who were good enough to sponge off of and use like toilet paper until the money train rolled in.

There is NO apple to apple comparison to be made here.

Ceiling Cat says: I blamez teh interwebz. I'z sowweez.

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LOL.

i wonder what jodie foster would have to say about this. she started working at age 3 and supported her divorced mother and older siblings.

{snip}from Wiki:

Commenting on her years as a child actress, which she describes as an "actor's career", Foster has said that "it was very clear to me at a young age that I had to fight for my life and that if I didn't, my life would get gobbled up and taken away from me.

Ceiling Cat says: I blamez teh interwebz. I'z sowweez.

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LOL.

I can haz a funny.

so you're sorry. huh.

"i wonder what jodie foster would have to say about this. she started working at age 3 and supported her divorced mother and older siblings."

Wrong.

Her mother worked as a producer to support the family when the father abandoned them. It was through her contacts that Jodie began working first as a child model and later in films. She was the original "Coppertone" little girl with a puppy tugging at her swimsuit.

She graduated Magna Cum Laude from Yale, choosing education from a world-class university over fame and celebrity.

She has been a model of intelligence, talent, restraint, class and decency - and a devoted mother who fiercely protects her sons from the public eye.

In short - the diametric opposite of NADA. Thanks for the opportunity to remind you, since it seems this was necessary.

(you're welcome)

Awesome and concise breakdown.

And absolutely 100% a diametrically opposite of Nadya Scam-the-Man.

It takes a certain kind of strength and compassion to do what you do, day after day.
The parents who lost their baby must be devastated, I can only imagine (and it hurts to just think about) and their loss is fresh with pain only beginning.

I definitely sense the empathy coming from you.

My husband has seen some pretty devastating things in his course of work and there have been times he cried over very tragic incidences. The handful of times he has broken down telling me about something he was involved with, that made him cry, involved children.

I have been fortunate that I haven't really experienced something first hand like that, a life or death situation, especially with a little one.

So tomorrow brings another day. Hope it is a better one.

And yes, you do care more for complete strangers than OctoPimp cares for her own kids.

These people up at bat, making excuses, and trying to goad the rest of us by saying things that are engineered to make us feel defensive (like we're SO cruel, how can anybody live like us black-hearted villains) are pathetic and just looking for attention from a come-back.

Sharing your tough day puts things in to perspective as I sit here getting ready to hit the hay.
I have my precious little ones here, safe and sound. Just hangin' out, chillin'. Tomorrow we'll hang out and just enjoy our time and the blessing of another day together.

Rest well.

"""These people up at bat, making excuses, and trying to goad the rest of us by saying things that are engineered to make us feel defensive (like we're SO cruel, how can anybody live like us black-hearted villains) are pathetic and just looking for attention from a come-back."""

Ya mean the pro-Nadya's?
Is that what you mean?
Pathetic?
Did your forget to add ... and the type of person who believed that New Yorkers
who were victims of 911 deserved it!!!! Your true colors showed in that post!!!!

BizzyBee | June 13, 2009 8:07 AM |
"""I just about fell off my chair reading a post by someone who said they actually felt that the New Yorkers who were victims of terrorist attacks on 9/11 DESERVED it until watching VIDEOS changed their mind. The reaction of MOST Americans was absolute speechlessness and disbelief that it happened RIGHT AWAY. No videos necessary to invoke empathy,sadness, and rage. This poster seems to be pro-Nadya and claims to love their own child, yet had even a moment of vindication when INNOCENT adults AND CHILDREN were murdered by terrorists, here on our own
land. That makes me so angry I could spit. I would like to see this person say their spiel to the families of those murdered innocents with a straight face, IN PERSON right in front of those who lost loved ones in that cowardly attack. THIS is the type of person that supports Nadya, and defends her, justifies or makes excuses for her choices and behavior, which is all at the expense of her innocent bystanding kids. Wow.""""

Source:
HOME STRUCTURE WILL BE BETTER FOR OCTUPLETS, ADMITS NADYA; NO MORE RADARONLINE VERY SOON (June 12)
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And all you want is for Nadya to fail.
NOTHING will be good enough unless she fails.
She MUST be put in her place or it won't be good enough.
Yep, negativity toward the mother ALL for the kids. Yep.

So Sally, in your opinion Jodie Foster turned out great despite the early exploitation. Apparently it wasn't as harmful as some claim.

When my children were very young and home with me all day I never could have found the time to spend hours at the computer. Even when I would try to spend time at the piano practicing my little boy would sit at my feet playing and waiting patiently for me to finish and give him my attention. I'm curious how you manage to spend so much time at the computer with your little ones safe at your side. Don't they get bored and restless? Seems like this is close to what you are accusing Nadya of doing.

But how many parents who read you rant about 911 allow their children to come to your house for a playdate. I would feel much safer with my precious grandchildren playing at Nadya's house under the supervision of her Nannys then in the house of a person as vindictive as you. If you knew they were related to a possible Nady supporter you would probably think they deserved to drown in the pool!

"And all you want is for Nadya to fail"

When will you ever GET it?

NADA has failed.

She HAS failed.

She has FAILED.

It's nothing to do with what you claim anyone "wants".

She has failed to do one responsible act in her miserable selfish life.

She has failed those children at every level.

She. Is. A. Failure.

What anyone "wants" is to see those children placed in a loving and stable home, which is no less than any child deserves.

Having her investigated for fraud (many levels - take your pick from tax to "disability"), child neglect and violating child labor laws is a BONUS. Everyone else has to observe these things and while she thinks she is above it all - she isn't. Her actions bring consequences and I hope they throw the proverbial book at her.

"So Sally, in your opinion Jodie Foster turned out great despite the early exploitation. Apparently it wasn't as harmful as some claim."

Is there something the matter with you?

Jodie Foster made choices that did not include exploiting fourteen children for personal gain. She is intelligent, talented, decent and classy - everything NADA is not. I already thanked "susan" for the opportunity to mention this.

Aside from arguing for the sake of it - why are you unable to provide one example of anything NADA has done that is worthy of support?

" I would feel much safer with my precious grandchildren playing at Nadya's house under the supervision of her Nannys "

Why don't you tell us this for the twenty FIRST time?

That you don't care about anyone belonging to you playing under the non-supervision of the resident zoo keeper who is under multiple investigations for child neglect and violation of child labor laws says what about you?

What's the matter with you? I was agreeing with you that Jodi Foster has apparently turned out great despite the early exploitation. Nadya, on the other hand did not experience that early exposure to fame; maybe thats the problem

You heard one swear word from a two year old who probably learned it from the paparazzi he used it on; a lot of the posters here use a lot worse language and in my experience if you use it one place you are likely to use it another so your grandchildren probably hear far worse from you.

As for the biting that is not that unusual a behavior for a two year old. My youngest grandchild is almost four years old and growing up in a family of 8, most of which were adopted neglected and abused children ,she well knows how to defend herself. That is not something to brag about but it is a fact of life for her and her siblings. However, for the most part my grandchildren are gentle and compassionate, something they have learned from their adopted family. While I would not recommend children to go over there to play if Nadya alone was watching the children, in the case of a planned party such as yesterdays I would bet adequate supervision was supplied and if not I would offer to assist.

yes some people do care more for complete strangers.

like i said millie, they read it the way they want to hear it.

"I was agreeing with you that Jodi Foster has apparently turned out great despite the early exploitation. Nadya, on the other hand did not experience that early exposure to fame; maybe thats the problem"

You are making the mistake of thinking I agree with anything you say.

Jodie Foster was not exploited in the manner NADA exploits those Solomon children.

Jodie Foster was born into a disadvantaged situation of abandonment by her birth father. Her mother worked full time to support her family and through her contacts, Jodie Foster worked from a young age, initially as a child model. As a parent, she fiercely protects her children from publicity.

You want comparisons? NADA's father has always bailed her out. NADA publicly disrespects her mother while having no problem accepting free babysitting from her. NADA has not worked in ten years and at the age of 33 was living with six children rent free with her parents. She sold access to premature newborn babies to the highest bidder so her lazy a$$ wouldn't have to support them, they could support her plastic surgery, tattoos and phony rhinestone-studded nails.

Jodie Foster is intelligent. NADA is a doofus.

Jodie Foster has talent. NADA is a waste of space, an eyesore with a voice like chalk down a blackboard and a laugh like a hyena.

Jodie Foster graduated Magna Cum Laude from Yale. NADA managed to get a degree in child development, in the course of which she has learned nothing about children - or else she would not be under multiple investigations for neglect and violation of child labor laws.

Why are you unable to name one thing NADA has done that has been decent, unselfish, and not for personal gain?

Hmmmm?

What did NADA do when that child swore? She gave us that hyena laugh and did nothing about it.

Biting is not "normal" behavior no matter how much you wish it were.

It is not "normal" for an adult supposedly supervising an autistic child to shrug off a black eye and bite mark the way NADA did.

Nobody cares about your unproveable anecdote about your "grandchild who bites". What's being done about it?

Any child who inflicts that kind of injury on a younger sibling has serious problems that are only going to worsen unless professional intervention gets to the reason for this anger and re-training how to express it without hurting anyone. Otherwise? Torturing puppies comes next.

That's right Sandy (is that really your name?). That's why I don't bother listing the things I find praiseworthy abut Nadya. Some of us can see them for ourselves, others don't want to admit they exist. Good morning!

i think some of the posters on here are nice people in a normal situation. the computer is a way for them to vent steam. maybe they have had a hard life and no one close to vent too. so this is a way they can let off a little steam. we dont know them, they dont know us. so a perfect solution to release some anger.go for it if it makes you less tense at the end of the day.

Author Profile Page millie-h.myopenid.com replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 18, 2009 4:53 AM | Reply

When my children were very young and home with me all day I never could have found the time to spend hours at the computer. Even when I would try to spend time at the piano practicing my little boy would sit at my feet playing and waiting patiently for me to finish and give him my attention. I'm curious how you manage to spend so much time at the computer with your little ones safe at your side. Don't they get bored and restless? Seems like this is close to what you are accusing Nadya of doing.

Thanks for asking Millie.

I work from home, have two computers here- one for work and one for play.

My work enables me to leave at will and venture off with my girls whenever I need to or want to. The SAME goes for me visiting this site.

For example, we play out in our yard, walk to our park, both girls are enrolled in gymnastics, dance, go to preschool (just ended, will be starting summer camp in about ten days), visit with friends and family regularly, do all kinds of stuff that takes us out and away from the house.

The fact that I have been posting throughout the day doesn't mean diddly squat. Half the time my kids are right here dancing around to their kiddie i-tunes cranking from the computer while I am at the desk. I get to watch them (cute overload, if I may say so myself) AND work, and blog when I feel like it.

How you think you know what is going on in my house is pretty interesting.

I spent most of the day out yesterday, which is typical. You might notice most of my posts were last night. My husband took the kids with him (you know, the BORING and STIFLING baby daddy quality time Nadya INTENTIONALLY deprived her kids of) to have a play date with our friends, while I was home cleaning, cooking dinner (NO McDonald's for my kids last night), and having a leisurely night to myself. I had all the time in the world to watch tv, hang around OctoRazzi, whatEVER I wanted to do. This was after shuttling the girls to a dentist appointment in the morning and spending the day with my mother in law, playing with the girls at the park all afternoon.

You know, when you HAVE a dad, the parenting gets divided, and EVERYONE benefits. Our girls are daddy's girls through and through, when he's home they stick to him and have the three of them have so much fun.
Discipline is ALSO instilled, because OUR kids arent't running amok or unsupervised, but get guidance from both my husband and me.

So the fact that I can a) blog while I work and while I am hanging out with my kids at home
and b) have a moment of peace to myself almost every night because MY KIDS HAVE A DAD....

If that doesn't make sense to you, I don't give a rat's ass.

But thanks for letting me share!!!

Did I say my grandchild bites? Where is that post? I don't remember saying it but most parents have to go through training at least one child not to bite.

yes millie it is my real name..........and i dont list all i've done either.

"That's why I don't bother listing the things I find praiseworthy abut Nadya."

Humor me.

Name one thing.

"Most parents" do NOT have to train "at least one child not to bite".

Just NADA. Then again, she isn't a parent, is she?

thanks for sharing. sounds like a normal home. keep it .kids need constant love. if not from their parents then from grandparents or aunts, uncles or even nannies and neighbors.

hey LTS, it was Lara Spencer that night from E.T. do you think they had a permit to film the preemies that night?

ongtallsally replied to comment from millie-h.myopenid.com | June 18, 2009 7:30 AM | Reply

"That's why I don't bother listing the things I find praiseworthy abut Nadya."

Humor me.

Name one thing.

Yes, PLEASE. We are ALL curious to know what you find redeeming about her or anything she has done.

You just keep breaking down the things the rest of us say, without contributing anything except that amounts to criticsm of US, when this topic is about NADYA.

Your reasons can be as simple as you wish you were her, she is so beautiful, she has a lovely voice, her hair makes you smile, ANYthing.
Interesting how you criticize Nadya skeptics, but offer NOTHING to bolster her on a PERSONAL level.

If you SUPPORT her, then really stand up for her. With friends like you, who needs naysayers? You do NOTHING to show us why we are mistaken or misguided in our perceptions. Except for the old "bitter skeptics their lives must suck" routine.

That's tired out, isn't true, and don't work.

IF you think she is worthwhile then SHOW why you think so. Pretend she's standing across from you waiting for you to explain all the good things about her and if you don't, she'll cry. Would you really want to deprive her of hearing about why she's so worthwhile?
Now THAT'S just mean, if you don't share her greatness with the rest of us.

"hey LTS, it was Lara Spencer that night from E.T. do you think they had a permit to film the preemies that night"

I have no idea who Lara Spencer is, as far as I know E.T. is an old movie - and why are you asking me?

Did I say my grandchild bites? Where is that post? I don't remember saying it but most parents have to go through training at least one child not to bite.

Sandy: Sorry, I had the wrong gossip show. I thought I had seen Lara on Insider during the afternoon going on about holding a baby or something.

Funny how you had to click on "reply" to make a point of not replying to low life like me.

you seem to know everything so thought you would be the one to ask. sorry if i bothered you.

i dont know if the shows are connected somehow and maybe she is on Insider instead of Entertainment Tonight. But im sure the post in March said E.T.

I've been asking this question for weeks. I think it's pretty obvious why nobody can name even one thing NADA has done that is decent, selfless and not for money.

They pick arguments just for the sake of it. That is now very clear.

Lose the sarcasm and give me one example of anything NADA has ever done that is decent, responsible, selfless and not for money.

Just one.

"i dont know if the shows are connected somehow and maybe she is on Insider instead of Entertainment Tonight. But im sure the post in March said E.T."

Is this in some way relevant to the multiple investigations NADA is under for child neglect and violating child labor laws?

thats why i was asking.

On thing NADA has done that was responsible, decent and not for money.

Why can't you find one thing?

Now you know why what she has done is so reviled and she is personally held in the lowest possible regard, met with disgust and revulsion.

You, her most avid supporter? Can't think of one decent thing she's done.

Hope that clears things up.

(you're welcome)

Because they also videotaped the Suleman babies in the home and Lara was talking about it on ET or Insider or both. We were just wondering if they could be caught in the child labor investigation because of that. However, if they didn't pay for the interview, probably not. Besides, they probably weren't reported.

The very thoughts I have, cheyenne.

The fact that these cheerleaders for NADA are unable to explain to the rest of us the reason(s) why they try to make excuses for her says it all.

Namely: there are no excuses to be made for the likes of NADA, and they pick arguments just for the sake of arguing.

The classic signs of defeat are there: the you-spend-too-much-time-on-the-computer allegation; the is-your-life-perfect "question"; now we're seeing show-me-where-I-said's.

NADA has done nothing - N-A-D-A - that has been responsible or kind. Because if she had, you can be damned sure we'd be hearing all about it.

longtallsally replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 18, 2009 7:53 AM | Reply

I've been asking this question for weeks. I think it's pretty obvious why nobody can name even one thing NADA has done that is decent, selfless and not for money.

They pick arguments just for the sake of it. That is now very clear.

EXACTLY. Just looking to stir some shit and get attention.

Notice their comments are always laced with condescension or barbs that are supposed to make us feel defensive, and then give them a response because we feel compelled to defend ourselves.

It seems to be all about them posturing in a superior more-altruistic-than-thou stance, looking down their noses and pitying the rest of us miserable hags who are SO miserable that Nadya is the target of our ire. For no reason other than OUR lives suck, so we want to share our misery.

GROW UP.

If they were news reporters outside the home, they were news reporters outside the home. They were there by NADA's invitation in her pathetic attempt to turn herself into a celebrity on the backs of newborn infants. In her dreams.

This is not the same as the radaronline crew tramping through a premature babies' nursery shoving cameras, bright lights and sound equipment into the faces of premature newborns on their first night at home - in exchange for payment to NADA.

Did her "entertainment lawyer" Czech-book advise her about the consequences of putting newborn babies to work?

Did she have bank accounts set up for those two babies at the time to set aside 15% of the check she accepted for all this? Did she have work permits for them? Did she even know (or care) about the regulations for filming babies within certain times and only for 20 minutes at a time?

Sure.

Are you interested in some oceanfront property I saw for sale in Arizona?

They are not the "Suleman babies".

The names on every one of their birth certificate gives their surname as Solomon.

Didn't you know that?

Do the people who pay you to work know that you are on the computer posting to a web site on something totally unrelated to your job? That could be considered "scamming" if you care. If you criticize another for wrongdoing you need to make sure your hands are totally clean.

Cheyenne_ | June 18, 2009 8:36 AM | Reply

okee dokee, I will post this and wait for the pro-nada's to list ALL the lovely things nada has done for others.
OR her dear family, other than for each other. oh and maybe name a FEW honest moves they have made..NOT including, houses going into foreclosure or bankruptcies. For example Angela's list of creditors INCLUDED the IRS. Has she attempted to catch up on that overdue bill of hers. Well, since her daughter USES the tax payer dollar so frequently..okay I'll wait now..waiting,,waiting,,waiting..>

You're not holding your breath, are you?

They WON'T answer your question because they "don't have to explain the things" they KNOW are good about her.

They are satisfied in "knowing" what they "know" while taking the rest of us to task.

It is obvious they are just blowing it out their you-know-whats with the pious tripe like this:

millie-h.myopenid.com replied to comment from https://me.yahoo.com/a/OT1zc4lumPY3J6H6VtIB06hb1PJo2TgI#fca65 | June 18, 2009 7:18 AM | Reply

That's right Sandy (is that really your name?). That's why I don't bother listing the things I find praiseworthy abut Nadya. Some of us can see them for ourselves, others don't want to admit they exist.

How can we admit to what exists, if you won't even share what it IS that "exists"???

And you won't see a single, solitary, DIRECT answer......

Do you know what Sandy and I were discussing that you so rudely interrupted?

Solution: Be a sucker to a pathological liar and welfare cheat. She has been enabled by her weirdo parents and now the likes of you can continue to enable her and live as a codependent.

That would be the only "solution" Nadya would WILLINGLY participate in.

On and On with projecting your unfit parenting skills onto others and making justifications & endless excuses for yourself. (oops, I mean Nada. It is hard to tell the difference between you two.)

5150, dementia, codependent? Are you the Octowacko or taking on her persona?
With a so-called grandma like you, your grandkids aren't safe being anywhere near you.

I just hear crickets... why am I not surprised.

Funny, I'm cleared by CPS to take care of the foster kids for my daughter. Apparently they see a different side of me

Not to mention-- how many of her so-called nannies are in this country legally. It is easy to find an illegal immigrant to do childcare or housework and pay them under the table, especially in CA.
Nada is no model citizen, so why should she pay taxes on legitimate and professional nannies.

It was just your imagination running away.
Oh your daughter is a loser too? Her kids are in foster care? That would explain your defensive excuses for Nada.
Just how many sides are there to you or should I say personalities.

You don't know they are illegals. Your are letting your imagination run away with you again. Just because politicians do it doesn't mean Nadya's doing it. As someone pointed out, she was getting part of her RO earnings weekly so she did/does have money to pay Nannies.

A purposeful misunderstanding? My daughter does foster care, has adopted five of the children and teaches foster care and adoption classes for Social Services. She still does foster care on an emergency basis and her father and I are her backup. We are very familiar what real abuse looks like and believe me, Nadya's children are no way in a similar situation. You want to take them out of their home and put them into an already overcrowded foster system where they will be traumatized by breaking that bond that you can't believe they have.

"Anyone who wants to make a buck can be a foster parent" and this is what you want for Nadya's kids? You can't have it both ways.

Since when is the Psychologist who's lost his license Dr Phil an expert on anything. The only thing he is an expert on is exploiting his guests and spinning a story to increase his ratings.

And you don't know that her nannies are legal. Just because, maybe- keep up your delusions and excuses for a cheat who has proven herself over and over on every video interview.
Of course she is paying them; they are not working for free. But, she has conned workers comp, financial aid, medi-cal, food stamps and ssi. But now, she is paying the taxes for her nannies? Simple-minded.

I can see why the foster care system is broken and why foster children suffer further abuse in foster homes. Because of nuts like you. You say you are familiar with real abuse? Her psycho kid bites and gives an autistic child physical pain and leaves wounds. You live in Denial, just like Nada; I think you are that trash. Any action that physically hurts and leaves marks and ignoring your kids is abuse.
You are not fit to be anyone's parent, let alone a foster parent for kids that need protection.
You can praise Nada and believe all of her lies, and, Wow she sounds like a great person.
Her actions are what count coupled with her pathological lying-- that is who Nada is.

im so glad your daughter takes in foster kids and you help watch them. i guess someone will read that wrong too.

Thanks for the support. They probably will turn that into something negative also. You know, I really don't know what Nadya is like because the media is so skewed in how they present her. I am being called a Nadya lover but how can you love someone you have never met. I mostly feel she is getting a really bad rap a lot worse than she could possibly deserve. That's why I defend her. We can't just let the naysayers have their way about everything. I'm glad there are people like you helping out in ways that you can. I would do the same if I was close enough. I really think that it is mainly one "gang" of negative people keeping the negativity alive by posting on every news site that posts a story. You can recognize the posters by their style, the names they call her and the nasty way they speak. People around here couldn't care less who Nadya Suleman is and just think it is amazing how people continue with the vendetta.

jz | June 18, 2009 9:24 AM | Reply

Funny, I'm cleared by CPS to take care of the foster kids for my daughter. Apparently they see a different side of me
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You are right. That is Funny.

Not to mention, we are learning the sad, pathetic, abysmal, and damaging circumstances that CPS *DOES* allow, unless molestation or starvation are proven. THEN they deem somebody unfit.

So, that comment reaaly didn't help bolster the point.

This is just too easy.

FYI, anyone can contract TB is they are exposed to it and the Nanny that tested positive was found to not have active but actually was reacting to a previous innoculation. I believe it was nurse4babies that brought that out.

Thank you Bizzy Bee for pointing out that Nadya's children would be worse off in foster care than in her care. Don't think they wouldn't be liable to bruises and bites for other out of control kids that end up in the same foster home. It happens!

Some of the children my daughter has cared for have been both starved and molested as well as being locked in a bathroom for weeks at a time or spending their infancy belted into a car seat and never taken out except for infrequent diapering. The result is a child who is rigid and unable to cuddle, a child who is at the 25th percentile for height and head circumference, a child who has not only lost their childhood but all chance for a normal adulthood. This is the kind of situation CPS deems serious enough to remove the children from. Once a parent has lost one child for neglect or abuse or drug use on the part of the parent it is much easier to take the following children, but the first requires some pretty major neglect or abuse apparently.

To answer your question, I have watched every video and read every news story and have seen nothing to support the claims you make. I have worked in positions where I was a mandated reporter and so far I have seen nothing worth reporting; the bite mark and bruise were problematic but apparently the report was satisfactory or more would have been done.
As for the other claims, they are all exaggerated way out of proportion as I have pointed out on numerous occasions and I refuse to continue to post the same evidence over and over to people who are determined to believe the worst. That is my opinion and it is not without evidence.

Author Profile Page millie-h.myopenid.com replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 18, 2009 10:13 AM | Reply

Thank you Bizzy Bee for pointing out that Nadya's children would be worse off in foster care than in her care.

With all due respect Millie, I didn't say that. Nor would I EVER agree. I believe the EXACT OPPOSITE.

In foster care, those kids would have a CHANCE at being taken in by a family that would love them and give them the time, guidance, support, and moral role model that would enable these kids to really turn out well-adjusted and with a sense of self-esteem and purpose.

In the Suleman Crime Ring, AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

Those kids are doomed if left with Nadya and that pathetic excuse for a support system called her parents.

" I really think that it is mainly one "gang" of negative people keeping the negativity alive by posting on every news site that posts a story. You can recognize the posters by their style, the names they call her and the nasty way they speak."

-Wow. Quite an accusation. But then I quess you would know. Since you are/were Millie, Anonymous and Nurse M here, Nurse H on NS.com, Nurse Milldred on Dr Phil and Concerned from Sommerset on WDN. 6 different log in names. I guess it makes it look like she has more supporters that way...

I post here and here only, though I do peruse the other sites. I have a hard time believing that it's "one small gang" keeping all those sites going" especially with the number of hits some of those sites get. But obviously you are entitled to your opinion.

millie-h.myopenid.com replied to comment from BizzyBee | June 18, 2009 10:17 AM | Reply

To answer your question, I have watched every video and read every news story and have seen nothing to support the claims you make. I have worked in positions where I was a mandated reporter and so far I have seen nothing worth reporting; the bite mark and bruise were problematic but apparently the report was satisfactory or more would have been done.
As for the other claims, they are all exaggerated way out of proportion as I have pointed out on numerous occasions and I refuse to continue to post the same evidence over and over to people who are determined to believe the worst. That is my opinion and it is not without evidence.

Your "answer" to the question was nothing but vague generalities. You have presented NOTHING to back up your opinion.
You have posted NO evidence WHAT SO EVER at ANY point in the debates going on here with other posters.

To belittle skeptics as "people who are determined to believe the worst" is to discredit NADYA.
Yes, I said it.
How, you may ask?

SHE has CONTRADICTED herSELF left and right, time and time again. Do you really disrespect her and ignore the words coming out of HER OWN mouth? You must watch with the sound off, or something.
It is UNDENIABLE.

Her FRAUD is what it IS. Not just some bunk we all conjured up and ACCUSED her of, she done got BUSTED. YES, we are all hoping she be brought to justice for THAT.

SHE *DUPED*her own fed up, burned out, accorging to them BROKE parents with the most asinine LIES such as (my personal favorite) having a CANCEROUS TUMOR that was REALLY babies inside her.
Babies she went to the clinic, PAID for, INTENTIONALLY had implanted but had the brass balls to pass off as "cancerous tumor".
All that while her kids were sleeping on the floors.

Just to mention a few of the things we "want to think" about her.

Any thoughts you'd like to share about any of THAT?

nurse4babies | June 18, 2009 10:32 AM | Reply

Maybe this is what those two "dudes" were doing at her house yesterday.

ROFLMAO

PASSING the buck, naturally.

She didn't CARE ENOUGH to make sure everything was on the up and up before snatching up the money.

THIS is why this family is without any outside support, save from loons.

NOBODY wants to deal with these slimbags. Biting the hand that feeds is par for the course, here. NO surprise.

I was against AIW because I thought the level of care needed was not nearly the level of care they supply at a very high cost. They didn't have the money and it wasn't really free because they were expecting the public to pay. My own experience as a nurse told me that this was not needed. Apparently the unskilled "nannies" or babysitters are working out. Usually the HOM's are taken care of by unskilled volunteers or relatives with a visiting nurse if they're lucky like Jon & Kate who had one supplied by the State of Pa.

Unfortunately, though foster parents aren't usually allowed to foster 14 kids I do know a family who fosters 10 kids and actually does an excellent job. I see them in church and occasionally in other places and the kids are immaculate, well behaved and appear happy. My daughter has a 16 year old girl and a 14 year old autistic son and then got into foster care when she say the huge need out there. Everybody who knows her thinks she does a wonderful job with the foster kids, including the five she has adopted. On top of the seven she now calls her own she still does respite care and emergency placements so sometimes has as many as eleven kids in the home, all but her two biological children under the age of nine. I see her manage so know it can be done, but not with eight newborns. I just hope she doesn't feel the need to adopt more!

I think the care of the medically fragile babies is a wonderful thing to do and if I was out in Ca I might be tempted to try it myself. I am not against AIW for what they do, I just thought that getting involved in the Octuplet situation wasn't appropriate and I doubt it did them any good. Thanks for the interest. It has become a big part of our lives.

"Do the people who pay you to work know that you are on the computer posting to a web site on something totally unrelated to your job? That could be considered "scamming" if you care. If you criticize another for wrongdoing you need to make sure your hands are totally clean."

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OK... breathe in... breathe out... breathe in...

{I think I'll be nice about this - THIS TIME!}

Millie...

What the heck do you THINK you know about me? NADA!!!!

What the heck do you THINK you know about my job? NADA!!!!

Until you can tell me who pays my salary, who the boss is, you can't ASSume anything!

HOW DARE YOU INFER I'M SCAMMING!

You're a mean-spirited, little person that blows remarks out of your ASSumptions!

I am speechless... your mentality and ASSumptions are mind-boggling!

Attack me again and I won't be so nice!

Any person who downplays any form of child abuse and neglect is dangerous and in Denial.
They are either abusers, the victim of an abuser or a codependent to an abuser. You know, those loving mothers or "grandmothers" who know abuse is being committed but turn the other way. And, say things like, "It's not really abuse, the kids weren't hit that hard, are you really sure grandpa touched your privates?" And disturbing comments as, "We are very familiar what real abuse looks like and believe me, Nadya's children are no way in a similar situation or "the bite mark and bruise were problematic but apparently the report was satisfactory..." Is no one who is an expert but rather an enabler of child abuse. Would any normal parent want a grandmother like that!

This wacko so-called grandma has the CPS mentality. Unless there is Severe sexual, physical abuse, starvation or abandonment, it is not abusive enough to remove kids. "It's just a little abuse."
Abuse is abuse is abuse; it still has a negative life-long impact on children.

Any wacko that doesn't see the behavioural and emotional problems of Nada's older six has no business near any child! That would include wacko grandma and angela. Nada's six all have problems and many of those problems are caused by ineffective parenting and poor bonding, resulting in attachment disorders. Sorry, digging dirty fingernails into a baby's cheek, allowing 8 babies to cry with hunger, slobbering monkey lips all over a baby's face does not constitute bonding.

No F'n way! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! Wow.. she stated she 'needed' them to support her kids & she said she had to take advantage of 'opportunities'... guess she saw the bigger 'opportunity' & once again the bigger overall SCAM was already set in motion. The pro-NADA peeps were all for RO, I bet now they will jump ship & say 'how horrible her & her family could have been in danger'. Gimme a fricken break!!

Sounds like silly millie is Nada. She has delusions but states them as fact, and in the process, she sounds like an idiot, just like Nada.

This wacko grandma, Simple-minded Millie wishes that she was an expert in child abuse and development, just like you-know-who (Nada) with her imaginary superior intelligence and phoney expertise in child development. Something that gives them relevance in society.

Simple-minded Silly Millie has found a way to have her little voice heard by riding on Nada's coat tail.
Watch out silly millie-- your idol Nada does want anyone to "get a piece of this."

Yes Nada yes what ever you say.

since you are so perfect why dont you offer your serviced to the family. those poor abused kids need someone like you to teach them and care for them and love them.im sure you could make a difference in there lives.

Did you study the Nada's video to get the wording just right? Why watch that particular video when a Nada personality/5150 can recite it for you.

You are the sucker doormat. That is your job do-gooder/5150- probably been walked over and scammed all of your life. Your job, not mine.

AIW were there to do just that but nutso kicked them out.
Just keep dropping off those diapers, drop-ins, and wipes.

That does create a funny picture Grandpa B. Are you off work now? If it's OK for you to go online to read and post just say so; you're right in that I don't know anything about you although I thought you said once you were working for the state.

They made multiple attempts to contact her prior to the babies being discharged. They made attempts to get in contact with her prior to Gloria Allred getting involved. Why? Because it takes one HECK of a lot of planning to get preemies ready to go home.

Sulemonster didn't have adequate plans in place, despite the protests you may make to the contrary. That's one of the reasons why Kaiser held up the discharge. There was no way on God's green earth they were going to let 8 preemies go home to that squalid hovel. Funny how many of her "supporters" seem to forget that phone call she made to Dr.Phil begging for his help. And how quickly renovations were completed on the new place, supplies were donated and trained nurses were in place (all at no cost to her).

As for AIW being "overkill" I disagree. For one thing, I do believe after seeing several of the videos that at least 2 of those tups will have developmental disabilities (that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.) They need specialized intervention and monitoring. They all need stable, consistent care and a chance to bond with a primary care giver if they are to stand a chance to grow into normal, healthy children and adults.

Also, real nurses are mandated reporters. We'd like to think that anyone in that house would report things that aren't kosher, yet time and time again RO has broken child labor laws and no one in that house has done a darn thing. It may not be on the "mandated" list of things to report, but I know darn well that any nurse I work with would have reported it each and every time to the proper authorities. Why? Because we take our decision to protect our charges very, very seriously.

Silly millie, are you having one of those delusions like Nada again? Just your imagination....running away again.
Better yet very little Millie-- it is okay for you to accompany do-gooder/5150 to drop off some more of those diapers, drop-ins, and wipes that Nada doesn't have the money for.

Aricept

No dear, that's YOUR job. You know, when you keep showing up her house and her parents. Now you even want to follow her to starbucks.

This is one of the problems with someone putting their life and the lives of their children out online and TV. Any wacko can find where they live and just start showing up. When does it cross the line from "do-gooder" to stalker?

I'm sure in the mind of a stalker, they never think they are doing anything wrong. Rather, they think that they are a 'friend' or they are 'helping' that person somehow. They begin to think they have a 'personal connection' to that person, when in reality, they are just one of many in a crowd.

If you want to keep donating Sandy, fine. But do it anonymously through Czech's office or through Octorazzi and leave the family alone. It's just getting creepy the way you keep showing up.

Because you are educated and have a logical mind, you have spelled it out very clearly. Sadly, there are those like Nada on this stream who will never get it.

"Do the people who pay you to work know that you are on the computer posting to a web site on something totally unrelated to your job? That could be considered "scamming" if you care. If you criticize another for wrongd"

Grandma B, Cheyenne et al...now we have the "you-are-scamming-YOUR-employer-because..." non-defense of NADA's scamming of welfare systems in place to help those in real need.

Um, millie?

Name one thing NADA has done that has been unselfish and not for money?

Come on, now. There must be some reason why you support her? Why don't you want to tell us?

"Do you know what Sandy and I were discussing that you so rudely interrupted"

I don't know who "Sandy" is and don't care to find out.

You mistakenly referred to these children as "the Suleman children". I corrected you. The names on all their birth certificates is Solomon.

You wouldn't want to appear misinformed, now, would you?

(you're welcome)

"she does have to pay nannies"

No.

She had FREE donated services from AIW. Who she fired. Because they would not agree to exploiting children for money as NADA was doing.

Don't you know anything?

"That does create a funny picture Grandpa B. Are you off work now? If it's OK for you to go online to read and post just say so; you're right in that I don't know anything about you although I thought you said once you were working for the state."

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Millie, I DO work for the State. But have you ever heard of breaks, or lunch, or flex time, or exempt employees?

I'm waiting for an apology from you.

They were only free if the public donated; I actually sent them a donation and we were never told what happened to those donations and how much they were able to raise. So much for "transparency"

"We are very familiar what real abuse looks like and believe me, Nadya's children are no way in a similar situation. You want to take them out of their home and put them into an already overcrowded foster system where they will be traumatized by breaking that bond that you can't believe they have. "

You might be a self-appointed "expert" on child abuse. Nobody else thinks so.

Some of the worst harm done to babies and children is INVISIBLE. There are no bruises an outsider can see on a young child whose mother ridicules his hair (calls him "clown hair"), the size of his head (calls him "alien") or the color of his skin (laughs and calls him "the white one").

Neglect isn't obvious to anyone who isn't looking for the signs. Tears cried by children who HAVE NO PARENTS to love them do not leave tracks or traces.

Since NADA listens to nobody until the law says she has to - others are making sure she does no more harm.

Shame on you for supporting this situation.

SHAME

I feel no need to apologize because I asked a simple question in a lot less rude terms than I have been treated and you flew into a rage. When I have worked for the state even on breaks we would not have been encouraged to use our time or the states computers in such a fashion; or am I assuming too much and you haul your laptop in to work with you. It was a perfectly legitimate question and an assumption no worse than the ones the Nady naysayers make about her all the time. It is also a lot less abusive than the responses I and others have to put with on here all the time. When everybody who has been calling me names and makes rude comments to every comment I make apologizes to me then I will consider apologizing to you for questioning your actions.

"They were only free if the public donated;"

They were, indeed, free - to NADA.

I'm sure if you have any questions about the massive donation(s) you made to support professional experienced nurses to care for two premature babies for a few days, a simple phone call will answer them.

Don't you know what "transparency" means? I would have thought with your extensive knowledge of everything this wouldn't be another blunder on your part.

Look it up and then bring it up again when you know what you're talking about.

" I asked a simple question "

Me, too.

Can you name one thing NADA has done that has been responsible, unselfish and not for money?

"I feel no need to apologize because I asked a simple question in a lot less rude terms than I have been treated and you flew into a rage. When I have worked for the state even on breaks we would not have been encouraged to use our time or the states computers in such a fashion; or am I assuming too much and you haul your laptop in to work with you. It was a perfectly legitimate question and an assumption no worse than the ones the Nady naysayers make about her all the time. It is also a lot less abusive than the responses I and others have to put with on here all the time. When everybody who has been calling me names and makes rude comments to every comment I make apologizes to me then I will consider apologizing to you for questioning your actions."

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Maybe you'd like to go running to Octorazzi and tell him I attacked you also?

Game on...................

[Side note to Sandy: Sandy, I personally feel that you feel you are doing the right thing in your mind. I don't begrudge you that. And as you know, I've never attacked anyone on this board. Millie, on the other hand, outright attacked me without provocation. And as the "other" board might say, she is a sh*t stirrer. You are not. I hope you can distinguish yourself and your motives from hers.]

"When everybody who has been calling me names and makes rude comments to every comment I make apologizes to me then I will consider apologizing to you for questioning your actions."

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Maybe you think you need a halo? You out and out attacked me for no reason and I responded in kind.

Maybe we shall all start calling you "Saint Millie"?

Hey, can someone get Millie a diaper? She's blowing it out of her ASSumptions again!

I would hate to think you liked me, that would mean I would have to have been spewing hateful stuff about Nadya and/or his children like you and your kind. I would be ashamed to be like that. You are all so hateful to her you could drive a less strong person to self harm and then would say she deserved it and at least it released her children whom most of you like to term a "litter"

If we keep this up Octorazzi may have to ban all of us. I'm out of here for now and I'm going on vacation for the next 10 days out of reach of the internet so enjoy yourselves. Keep the faith, Sandy

"When everybody who has been calling me names and makes rude comments to every comment I make apologizes to me then I will consider apologizing to you for questioning your actions."

Cheyenne apologized which took courage and grace.

Her apology was neither acknowledged nor was your standard of posting here raised as a result of it.

Nobody has done anything to apologize to you for. It is the other way around.

There! You managed to divert attention away from NADA's negligence and violation of child labor laws. Not for long, though.

Comes back to that every time, doesn't it?

oops I forgot you like to ask questions but refuse to answer them

Chey, you don't have to apologize to me, but I appreciate the thought.

We have a rare one here, don't we? Well, I'm a big girl now and she just went after the wrong person on the wrong day.

Thank goodness she's going on vacation! Let's hope she keeps her promise and doesn't touch a computer during this time. We'll have some peace for a while.

Again, Chey... thank you.

"Grandma B- don't hold your breath waiting for an "apology" from nurseH/millie. The closest you'll get is her blaming it on her steroid rage. The scariest part to me is how she "professes" to be a "mental health" professional...just like someone else!

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That's funny because I was just thinking about that and wondering if she worked in a State institution like Nada! Takes some "special" people to spend so much time in an instution, huh? =)))

GrandmaB replied to comment from millie-h.myopenid.com | June 18, 2009 12:22 PM | Reply

"When everybody who has been calling me names and makes rude comments to every comment I make apologizes to me then I will consider apologizing to you for questioning your actions."

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Maybe you think you need a halo? You out and out attacked me for no reason and I responded in kind.

Maybe we shall all start calling you "Saint Millie"?

Hey, can someone get Millie a diaper? She's blowing it out of her ASSumptions again!

I've got plenty of Pampers Cruisers in size 4 to share. Millie needs a fresh diaper, a bottle o' mook, and a nap.

We've gone from you-spend-too-much-time-on-the-computer allegation to the is-your-life-perfect "question"; to show-me-where-I-said's diversion to the does-your-employer-know-you're-using-company-time-to-post-here accusation to....(drum roll) I'm-going-on-holiday claim.

Cornered and unable to provide one example of selfless, responsible behavior of their hero or any reason why NADA deserves support? They drop like houseflies in vinegar.

p.s. say hi to "jake" for us all, willya? Thanks.

I signed back in just to apologize; Grandma B I apologize for questioning your work ethic.

When's the next get-together. You know, with the homemade "stuff." We need a break.

ROFLMAO!!!

NO Cheyenne. I mean your other life. The one with the porch that you sit on and have homemade beer. [I think it was homemade beer.]

ROFLMAO

maybe the answers to some of your questions of her contradictory behaviour is that she knows she has to keep herself in the news in order to afford her kids. we are all here arguing the same points months after many expected her 15 minutes to be up.
maybe we are the dummies wasting our time argueing with each other

Excellent points.

If I may, I would like to add...what has she ever done that has been

1) unselfish
2) responsible
3) not for money

to warrant excuses and support?

(thanks cal_grlz for letting me add that)

Can I ask of everyone

Do you really think a mother should be selfless? don't you think you are setting yourself up for years of abuse by your kids if you teach them they can ask anything of you? Also how will those kids behave with other people since they expect everyone to lie down for them.

The answer to hard questions about NADA's behavior is easy and one size fits all:

She is a liar.

i don't think she planned on this many kids AT ONCE. I guess this is where we start to diverge.
after we diverge then you can look at any situation in your light or my light.

I appreciate that you all have your opinion and I can see why you hold those views.

Why did she start the year at school and go to class and then drop out part way through term if she expected to get 6?

"Can I ask of everyone

Do you really think a mother should be selfless? don't you think you are setting yourself up for years of abuse by your kids if you teach them they can ask anything of you? Also how will those kids behave with other people since they expect everyone to lie down for them."

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There is a huge difference between being a responsible parent who places their child(ren)'s welfare above all else - and a doormat.

"No" is just as good a word as "yes" under certain circumstances. It does no child any good to give in to their demands when their demands are selfish and unreasonable.

Angela has apparently allowed herself to be a doormat. What did this achieve? A daughter who is an overgrown spoiled brat.

Why would she implant 6 if she didn't at least acknowledge the POSSIBILITY if not the probability that she would get that many?

The fact that she didn't get 6 the time before that is no excuse. Oops, I was playing Russian roulette...I spun the chamber and nothing happened last time, so why should I have expected it to happen THIS time? Duh!

BizzyBee- you don't owe anyone else anymore explanations or apologies. You've done more than your share. Lise has a stick up her backside on this. Just ignore her comments and don't let her bait you.

https://me.yahoo.com/ca_grlz#33ead replied to comment from susan | June 18, 2009 3:04 PM | Reply

Why would she implant 6 if she didn't at least acknowledge the POSSIBILITY if not the probability that she would get that many?

The fact that she didn't get 6 the time before that is no excuse. Oops, I was playing Russian roulette...I spun the chamber and nothing happened last time, so why should I have expected it to happen THIS time? Duh!

Yeah- Whatchu talkin'bout, Willis?

She was goin' for the gold, it's OBVIOUS.

""""">>>PLEASE NOTE THE COMMENT FROM ADMIN * TO LISE*<<<

Lise | June 13, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply

BizzyBee said about balboud 's post:
[[[[[[[[[[This poster seems to be pro-Nadya]]]]]]]]] and claims to love their own child, yet had even a moment of vindication when INNOCENT adults AND CHILDREN were murdered by terrorists, here on our own land. That makes me so angry I could spit. I would like to see this person say their spiel to the families of those murdered innocents with a straight face, IN PERSON right in front of those who lost loved ones in that cowardly attack. [[[[[[[[[THIS is the type of person that supports Nadya, and defends her, justifies or makes excuses for her choices and behavior, which is all at the expense of her innocent bystanding kids. Wow.]]]]]]]]]]]]]

Wow is Right! Explain that away BizzyBee!!

Octorazzi, after you ban me, before or whenever, make sure you read the above comment - I think you may fall in the category of supporting Nadya (at least in public) and this would mean you have the mentality of one who believes New Yorker's deserved 9/11. I think it's extremly hard NOT to be offended by such a comment.

ADMIN NOTE: Lise, I support no one but the truth and if YOU bunch Suleman supporters with a person like that, you are closed-minded and really need to look inside yourself and find an explanation as to why disagreement with your opinion creates so much hatred within you. There are as many opinions about Suleman as there are people, and if you intend to stir things up by making illogical comments like the one you just did, you really need help.""""""

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I didn't even know you, Octorazzi, replied to my post!! Thanks BB for re-posting so I can clear it up.

OCTORAZZI, I think you meant to address that post to BIZZYBEE as I said nothing of sort. It was she, as I quoted, who stated that. She is the one who said Nadya supporters had the mentality of someone who felt New Yorkers deserved 911!! IT was SHOCKING!! And I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE HATRED.

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Biz, I hope you'll reconsider. Right now everyone is asking that this be dropped. I know, IMO, that if it were to be brought up again, I'd be steppin' up to the plate with a few words.

Please reconsider.

But it was deserved. Read Octorazzi's ADMIN note above. Even he thought so. [Even though he directed to the wrong person.]

thank you grandmaB i read what i want and write what i want. i love reading everyones comments. only nadya, octorazzi, czech and i know that i help the babies and children. sorry to those of you who think i stalk but i dont.

I did read his note and it was directed at you. Especially after you called her a b***h which should have gotten you banned.

Sandy: I really am leaving tomorrow morning and won't be back until Sunday, the 28th. We are going on a sort of retreat sponsered by our church and three of our girls and their families will also be there so we are really looking forward to it. We are packing up our camper right now and where we are going there is no internet access so I will have to go without Nadya news for the whole time. I will miss it but not the attacks. Hang in there and keep doing what you want. I suspect they are accusing you of being a stalker in hopes of intimidating you out of lending a helping hand. I saw your picture a while back and you look like someone I would like for a friend. Hopefully Nadya will be able to learn to trust you also. I will keep looking on for the next few hours anyway. Thanks

toot toot

you saw my picture where?

Didn't Octorazzi have your picture on here way back when you first started leaving diapers on the doorstep? Maybe it was someone else but I was assuming it was you. Look back at the archives from March or April.

She doesn't want her picture taken by octorazzi because she doesn't want the "publicity" *cough, cough*. She just comes here and toots her own horn.

Because when you were asked if you had met nada, you said "no". That constitutes being a "stranger". If you knew her or her family, you wouldn't have to make such a publicly big deal out of delivering things to her doorstep and leaving them there. You would knock on the door and talk to her. You know, like neighbors or friends do...

yea right!!!!!like i said i hope so.educational ones are the best.the address is on the web site.

oops were you speaking of this site?

No, the nadyasuleman.com site where everybody on there hates Nadya. They said they wanted to do something for the kids that she couldn't benefit from. I was just wondering if it was all talk or if they were ready to back it up.

Thank God.

Ahhh...here we go again, someone who comes to stir up trouble between boards. Figures.

Hey there, hey there.... I'm a comin'! And I want my beer free too! I've been workin' for 45 years now and still workin'! Just gettin ready to leave work (11-hour days)

And don't forget the pig's feet!

GrandmaB

http://visionweb DOT occourts.org/Vision_Public/Index.do

Gutierrez, Nadya

A BBQ!!
Honestly I bet it would be fun. I bet we would all get along really well. Well, I might need to sit between you and Cheyenne. hehehe

Would you GROW UP?

Can't you move on from they Who-said-you-said-show-me-where-I-said's?

Has NADA suddenly done something worth cheering about?

Do tell!!

No Lise, my teeth are my own...chomp, chomp :)

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OHHHH NOOO I just saw these posts. Now I'm kind of sad.
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Cheyenne | June 18, 2009 2:29 PM |
--------------- OH were you being sarcastic Lise? WONDER WHY? HUH!
GrandmaB? Grlz33? was Lise being mean to me?
Dang I always get a facial tick when she's around. Okay Lise answer grlz's questions then..oh think you can? I'll keep an eye open for ALL your answers..K. back to playing chopsticks. lalalala..------------------

((((((CHEYENNE)))))) I wasn't be sarcastic. I was talking about the porch that you talked about and where you and people had daiquiris something. I don't remember the details but it sounded nice. And you offered me some homemade beer [I think it was beer, homemade something.].

Are you saying [I'm giggling a little here] that I give you a facial tick? Say it ain't so.

AS FOR answering ca grlz's questions, the answers are already known. You don't need me to answer them.

I can SEE things. I just don't want to use negative, demeaning terms to talk about or describe her. It's not necessary and it seems wrong.

ADMIN NOTE: REMINDER: NO LIVE LINKS (deleted) and STICK TO TOPIC AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE. Thanks
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Oops Sorry Boss.
Did you watch the video maybe?

Oh dear Ankaret- what WILL we put in the pinata?

I guess octorazzi doesn't yet have the scoop on the octo monster suing radar for filming the babies.
I guess octorazzi doesn't yet have the scoop on Nadya suing radar for filming the babies.

Hopefully, she'll get swatted down like the blood sucking mosquito that she is.
Hopefully, she will be penalized for any alleged criminal activities.

....slobbering monkey lips all over a baby's face does not constitute bonding.
Nadya kissing all over her baby's face does not constitute bonding.

ADMIN NOTE: OCTORAZZI HAD THE DAY OFF - But Be aware that NOTHING ESCAPES from my OctoRadar and I've got calls to those involved, 'cept no one is calling me back... FULL UPDATE TOMORROW! Octorazzi has his CREW stationed within quick glance of the center of the OctoUniverse ALL... THE.. TIME!

---------Oh dear Ankaret- what WILL we put in the pinata?------------

Oh heck, I'm out.

Thanks Lise